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Last Phase of the Desktop Wars?

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#41
“The OS itself , and its userland tools, has for some time already been Linux underneath a carefully preserved old-Windows UI.”

I’m not sure how anyone could arrive at this conclusion. The OS itself is certainly not “Linux underneath a carefully preserved old-Windows UI.”

Re: Last Phase of the Desktop Wars?

#42

“The OS itself , and its userland tools, has for some time already been Linux underneath a carefully preserved old-Windows UI.” I’m not sure how anyone could arrive at this conclusion. The OS itself is certainly not “Linux underneath a carefully preserved old-Windows UI.”

This is a prediction as to how Microsoft can announce EOL for Windows.

Re: Last Phase of the Desktop Wars?

#43

I'm buying a new computer. Currently I have only ubuntu linux machines and was just saying to someone that I would actually consider trying windows and WSL because it would let me use the linux tools I want alongside MS office, and it might be interesting to play with windows versions of things. The reason I wont actually do it though is because I'm sure that windows will be filled with commercially oriented intrusio…

i booted into my windows machine the other day, and when it finally came up, it was full of crap: my start bar had a bing ad for a halloween quiz, 3 different versions of candy crush, half my settings reset, etc... compared to my daily (linux and macos) it sure felt like i had little control over the machine, it was a microsoft ad platform first and place to get actual work done second

Re: Last Phase of the Desktop Wars?

#44

> "Ten years later, Azure makes Microsoft most of its money." Well, no, not yet. Microsoft doesn't break out Azure separately. It's usually included in their "Intelligent Cloud", which is the largest segment, but that also includes SQL Server (a big money maker), Windows Server, GitHub, and other stuff. "Commercial Cloud" revenue (which is all the cloud portions of their products, from Azure to Office 365 Commercial)…

Will this meme ever die that Cloud revenue includes Office 365?

Office is part of “ Productivity and Business Processes” not “Intelligent Cloud”.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/23/microsoft-msft-earnings-q1-2...

Re: Last Phase of the Desktop Wars?

#45

I'm buying a new computer. Currently I have only ubuntu linux machines and was just saying to someone that I would actually consider trying windows and WSL because it would let me use the linux tools I want alongside MS office, and it might be interesting to play with windows versions of things. The reason I wont actually do it though is because I'm sure that windows will be filled with commercially oriented intrusio…

Hopefully you’ve disabled Ubuntus motd service on your machines.

https://mobile.twitter.com/lelff/status/1210619413885575168

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14662088

Re: Last Phase of the Desktop Wars?

#46

> "Ten years later, Azure makes Microsoft most of its money." Well, no, not yet. Microsoft doesn't break out Azure separately. It's usually included in their "Intelligent Cloud", which is the largest segment, but that also includes SQL Server (a big money maker), Windows Server, GitHub, and other stuff. "Commercial Cloud" revenue (which is all the cloud portions of their products, from Azure to Office 365 Commercial)…

Also, Azure is running on Windows. While majority of VMs may be running on Linux, the hosts are running Windows. I would assume Microsoft sees competitive advantage in using their own OS and hypervisor.

Microsoft is talking about swapping out the windows portion of their azure stack for Linux. Still running their own hypervisor, but with Linux as the "dom0" controlling it.

Re: Last Phase of the Desktop Wars?

#47
> Microsoft has already ported Edge to run under Linux. There is only one way that makes any sense, and that is as a trial run for freeing the rest of the Windows utility suite from depending on any emulation layer.

This is a very strange conclusion to draw. Chromium was already ported to Linux. Microsoft just "ported" the Edge skin which likely uses very little Windows-specific code.

Re: Last Phase of the Desktop Wars?

#49

> Microsoft has already ported Edge to run under Linux. There is only one way that makes any sense, and that is as a trial run for freeing the rest of the Windows utility suite from depending on any emulation layer. This is a very strange conclusion to draw. Chromium was already ported to Linux. Microsoft just "ported" the Edge skin which likely uses very little Windows-specific code.

But why Linux and not macOS?

Re: Last Phase of the Desktop Wars?

#50

I'm buying a new computer. Currently I have only ubuntu linux machines and was just saying to someone that I would actually consider trying windows and WSL because it would let me use the linux tools I want alongside MS office, and it might be interesting to play with windows versions of things. The reason I wont actually do it though is because I'm sure that windows will be filled with commercially oriented intrusio…

Definitely agree, a Mac you get Mac OS, Ubuntu you get Ubuntu, Windows you get some Frankenstein of the OS, Mcafee, Dell, and various other companies applications all stitched together.

Those parts are easily removed by doing a vanilla install the first thing you do. Windows (esp 10) still had some built-in things you don't get away from though. And also all the dialogues from self-updating software and plugins.
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