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Re: Firefox's JIT is getting significantly faster

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No, but they enjoy faster performance that JiT optimization yields

That's technically true, but most average users probably don't care. It's like optimizing your car's fuel efficiency by changing your spark plugs more often. When was the last time you changed your spark plugs?

Every oil change

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Layout is actually difficult and offers a great many interesting problems when you try to parallelize it or efficiently use GPU acceleration. There are a lot of constraints and text is difficult to size and render.

Layout is automated (and hopefully repeatable) typesetting. The other thing Donald Knuth is famous for is getting so fed up with typesetting for his books, he created a document format to help him keep his sanity. And then went way way down that rabbit hole instead of finishing his book series. One might argue that's not sanity-preserving.

Sometimes the detour is the journey.

Re: Firefox's JIT is getting significantly faster

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No, but they enjoy faster performance that JiT optimization yields

That's technically true, but most average users probably don't care. It's like optimizing your car's fuel efficiency by changing your spark plugs more often. When was the last time you changed your spark plugs?

Misfires on a spark plugs are pretty obvious though. Maybe changing the air filter or cleaning the intake manifold is a more apt comparison?

Re: Firefox's JIT is getting significantly faster

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> It's sad how these valuable optimizations are unknown to the average person. Does the average person really need to understand JIT optimisations?

No, but they enjoy faster performance that JiT optimization yields

Well, what actually happens is that there's less pressure on web developers to make their sites faster (in contrast to other business goals) and so we reach a new equilibrium where sites perform just as badly.

Web developers aren't alone here, of course. It's the same story for systems software as well.

In general, thinking in terms of equilibriums is helpful.

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Google needs Firefox to exist for anti-trust reasons. If they don’t buy fire fox’s traffic, bing will.

I always wondered if firefox would actually change default engine if google stops the cash. It would remove some chunk of users at least imo, can firefox really afford it?

They switched to Yahoo for a while.

Re: Firefox's JIT is getting significantly faster

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I think pg sums it up the best: http://www.paulgraham.com/name.html "The problem with not having the .com of your name is that it signals weakness. Unless you're so big that your reputation precedes you, a marginal domain suggests you're a marginal company." I'd say there's a few major reasons: protecting the name and signaling we're a real company to larger corporations. For us, we also host websites that allows JS/…

Whew, that is the sentiment of a true plutocrat and elitist. You're weak unless you're rich and pay to rent in the good part of town. Sure, it's desirable to look serious to commercial partners and investors, but mostly it's an Internet branding tax. Most of your customers will Google your site.

> Most of your customers will Google your site.

And that's why seeing ".com" is important. You just proved his point, duh.

Re: Firefox's JIT is getting significantly faster

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Google needs Firefox to exist for anti-trust reasons. If they don’t buy fire fox’s traffic, bing will.

I always wondered if firefox would actually change default engine if google stops the cash. It would remove some chunk of users at least imo, can firefox really afford it?

They’d change the default for fresh profiles but they wouldn’t dare overwrite existing installs. The former is a minor nuisance that would only cause minor grumbling but not affect market share. The latter would be actively hostile and cause significant loss of trust.

Re: Firefox's JIT is getting significantly faster

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It's nice to see some actual good news involving Firefox. With all of the leadership and financial struggles lately, it's made me worry that the browser I've been using for the last 17 years doesn't have long to live. Hopefully that is not the case.

The media autoplay forced on (with settings that don't turn it off in mobile or desktop) make me miserable and seriously considering using something else that isn't Chrome.

What, Chrome has autoplay on? How can anyone stand that? It reminds me of IE7 with auto-installed toolbars that took 1/3 of the screen.

Re: Firefox's JIT is getting significantly faster

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The media autoplay forced on (with settings that don't turn it off in mobile or desktop) make me miserable and seriously considering using something else that isn't Chrome.

What, Chrome has autoplay on? How can anyone stand that? It reminds me of IE7 with auto-installed toolbars that took 1/3 of the screen.

Firefox does... and I can't turn it off. The websites, especially news sites, completely and utterly override the "off" settings for autoplay in firefox. And the dev team keeps changing the way those options are named as well as confusingly having a bunch of similarly named options. I'm confident that they're doing it on purpose because autoplay off hurts ad serving and it also probably pisses off traditional media sites trying to turn our browsers into TV's from the 90's blasting at us.

I misworded my original. I wanted to say, I'm considering moving off Firefox, but not to Chrome.

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