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Re: Boulder prohibits gatherings of any size for 18-22 year olds

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Post by nickthemagicman »

pvaldes wrote: post #240
nickthemagicman wrote: post #237

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Wheres your evidence that Italy has more multigenerational households than Sweden? Do you have a citation? That's scientifically unsubstantiated and almost like you made it up on the spot based on anecdotal information. Also, you're cherry picking again to suit your narrative. Sweden is part of Europe and should be compared as such. It's disingenuous to keep promoting this demon-ization of Sweden narrative with unsub…

You can find easily those data in Eurostat of course, that is the official channel for those things in EU. Mean age of youngsters leaving parental home to live in their own home. Data from 2019: - Italy: 30.1 Years old. - European Union: 26.2 Years old - Swedden: 17.8 Years old. So... Yes, definitely I would say that they are very different societies. This, most probably, saved Swedden several deaths. > Sweden is par…

Sounds like that would be an easy graph to draw.

Correlate all of the countries covid death per capita with age youngsters leave the home.

See if that's a valid observation and holds true across countries... or just a single data point that you pulled out of thin air.

Have there been any actual studies to support this hypothesis or are you making this up to support your narrative?

It seems to be just an endless rabbit hole of unsubstantiated correlations and cherry picking.

Re: Boulder prohibits gatherings of any size for 18-22 year olds

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Post by dgudkov »

nradov wrote: post #224
the_benno wrote: post #40

As a 27-year-old CU PhD student and staff member, I just want to say that this is a welcome development. The university recklessly opened this fall without adequate security measures in place over the loud protests of faculty and staff, and (surprised_pikachu.jpg) now Boulder is facing a massive outbreak clearly attributable to campus' opening [1]. My friends, colleagues, and community are being directly endangered b…

Collective punishment based on age can never be morally justified regardless of the results.

You can view it not as punishment but as a restriction caused by inability to adequately estimate risks. Similar to prohibiting teenagers and kids from driving cars.

Re: Boulder prohibits gatherings of any size for 18-22 year olds

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Post by pvaldes »

nickthemagicman wrote: post #251
pvaldes wrote: post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can find easily those data in Eurostat of course, that is the official channel for those things in EU. Mean age of youngsters leaving parental home to live in their own home. Data from 2019: - Italy: 30.1 Years old. - European Union: 26.2 Years old - Swedden: 17.8 Years old. So... Yes, definitely I would say that they are very different societies. This, most probably, saved Swedden several deaths. > Sweden is par…

Sounds like that would be an easy graph to draw. Correlate all of the countries covid death per capita with age youngsters leave the home. See if that's a valid observation and holds true across countries... or just a single data point that you pulled out of thin air. Have there been any actual studies to support this hypothesis or are you making this up to support your narrative? It seems to be just an endless rabbi…

Too busy watching Susanna Hoffs videos in internet currently, (I prefer to choose my own rabbit holes, thanks), but I will make all this studies next year, all of then, each one. Maybe. If I'm very bored. Mortally bored. I promise.

(Homework for the weekend?... LOL, who do you think I am? your secretary?)

Re: Boulder prohibits gatherings of any size for 18-22 year olds

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Post by Balgair »

peapicker wrote: post #241
Balgair wrote: post #134

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The old saying is that Boulder is seven square miles between the mountains and reality. You can buy passports on Pearl St. to get into Boulder. It's kinda it's own little world. The next town over is Louisville, which has pretty much nothing for a 18-22 year old to do. Or Longmonth, which also has pretty much nothing to do. Denver is ~30 min away depending on traffic. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Boulder,+CO/@39…

Louisville and Longmont, both in Boulder County, are also subject to this prohibition as is is a county-wide regulation.

Oh, thank you, my mistake!

Re: Boulder prohibits gatherings of any size for 18-22 year olds

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Post by nradov »

dgudkov wrote: post #252
nradov wrote: post #224

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Collective punishment based on age can never be morally justified regardless of the results.

You can view it not as punishment but as a restriction caused by inability to adequately estimate risks. Similar to prohibiting teenagers and kids from driving cars.

These are adults, not children. Quarantine measures applied to adults based on age are unprecedented and unjustified.

Re: Boulder prohibits gatherings of any size for 18-22 year olds

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Post by dang »

nickthemagicman wrote: post #209
lbeltrame wrote: post #164

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There is yet no evidence that explicitly ties the use of a face mask to lower rates of SARS-CoV-2 transmission. A lot of the published evidence is either inconsistent, or indirect (measurement of droplets, but that doesn't take physical barriers like nose and mouth, or the viral load required to overcome the non adaptive immune system). In fact, it has been argued that non pharmacological interventions should be eval…

You're going to get downvotes like crazy from the Corona Cult. Vote in November! Keep the fanatics from taking over.

Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar. Posting like this is basically arson, or criminal negligence. I'm sure you don't mean to cause harm, but this has been a problem for a long time:

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If you can't or won't fix this, we're going to have to ban you. Most accounts would be banned by now after a lot less than that. Can you please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules from now on?

Re: Boulder prohibits gatherings of any size for 18-22 year olds

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Post by ddingus »

thu2111 wrote: post #192
ddingus wrote: post #157

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The basis for it was reducing impact on health care systems, and to limit second, and future wave impact. Doing the first saved a lot of people because treatment was available. Secondary saves were non covid patients who could get service because capacity remained more available. Had we had better safety compliance, we would have reduced even more than we did and may have normalized things such that the wave upon us…

It actually didn't save anyone because there was never any risk of hospital overload when panic didn't set in: Sweden has one of the lowest ICU capacities in Europe and never saw hospital overload. A few places did, but that's because they over-reacted and quarantined lots of their medical staff. That's the reaction not the virus.

Reevaluate that for the US.

Re: Boulder prohibits gatherings of any size for 18-22 year olds

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Post by dgudkov »

nradov wrote: post #255
dgudkov wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can view it not as punishment but as a restriction caused by inability to adequately estimate risks. Similar to prohibiting teenagers and kids from driving cars.

These are adults , not children. Quarantine measures applied to adults based on age are unprecedented and unjustified.

From a legal standpoint, not exactly. For instance, people in the US are prohibited from buying alcohol until 21yo. Do you consider that restriction also unprecedented and unjustified? :)

Re: Boulder prohibits gatherings of any size for 18-22 year olds

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Post by [deleted] »

pvaldes wrote: post #253
nickthemagicman wrote: post #251

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Sounds like that would be an easy graph to draw. Correlate all of the countries covid death per capita with age youngsters leave the home. See if that's a valid observation and holds true across countries... or just a single data point that you pulled out of thin air. Have there been any actual studies to support this hypothesis or are you making this up to support your narrative? It seems to be just an endless rabbi…

Too busy watching Susanna Hoffs videos in internet currently, (I prefer to choose my own rabbit holes, thanks), but I will make all this studies next year, all of then, each one. Maybe. If I'm very bored. Mortally bored. I promise. (Homework for the weekend?... LOL, who do you think I am? your secretary?)

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Re: Boulder prohibits gatherings of any size for 18-22 year olds

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Post by nickthemagicman »

pvaldes wrote: post #253
nickthemagicman wrote: post #251

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like that would be an easy graph to draw. Correlate all of the countries covid death per capita with age youngsters leave the home. See if that's a valid observation and holds true across countries... or just a single data point that you pulled out of thin air. Have there been any actual studies to support this hypothesis or are you making this up to support your narrative? It seems to be just an endless rabbi…

Too busy watching Susanna Hoffs videos in internet currently, (I prefer to choose my own rabbit holes, thanks), but I will make all this studies next year, all of then, each one. Maybe. If I'm very bored. Mortally bored. I promise. (Homework for the weekend?... LOL, who do you think I am? your secretary?)

I would just think someone would want to be accurate with their facts is all.
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