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You're enlightened – now what?

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Re: You're enlightened – now what?

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Post by fizixer »

samirillian wrote: post #71

Wow, a lot of hate in the comments, and a lot of know-it-alls. I would say that, at the very least, worrying over these details would be a step along that road. And no, there is not widespread agreement on the speciific features. Some would say you cease to perdure in the phenomenal realm at all. Some would say you continue do altruistic things out of compassion. Some would say enlightenment is not possible in a sing…

I apologize on behalf of the schmucks posting hate in the comments.

The know-it-allness and the highness shall remain reserved for the author of the post.

Re: You're enlightened – now what?

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Post by forgotmypw17 »

crazygringo wrote: post #48

This article appears to be deeply confusing two drastically different meanings of "enlightened". There's the spiritual sense, which might be described as fully understanding and accepting the impermanence of the world and the "artificiality" of meaning. Separately, there's "getting" something in a knowledge area. E.g. you finally understood how pointers work in C. The author seems to start with the first... but then…

>if you're enlightened then you want to spread it -- but this is the exact opposite of enlightenment, so the author has it 100% backwards.

I have to disagree there. Many people who achieve benefits through enlightenment want to spread it to as many people as possible, so that others can receive help in achieving their own enlightenement.

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Post by robaato »

Jan Willem van der Wetering "A Glimpse of Nothingness"

Would there ever be a time, I thought while I brushed my teeth, when meditation is an accepted general activity?

"Where is Father?" "Father is meditating." "Oh."

Father is meditating. He often does. The children meditate too when they have a chance. And Mother. And the neighbors. They are all disciples of the master of the neighborhood. There will be new classes, new ranks. When you want to be a member of the government you have to have solved a certain number of koans, otherwise your insight will not be sufficient to be able to help rule the country. The prime minister is a wise old fellow with a bald shaven head. He doesn't want anything. He has no possessions except what he needs for his daily simple routine. He is a high priest who nearly always wears the same clothes.

The higher you go the simpler you become. Only the common people are rich, they still want to have property. The more impressive your residence the lower your place in society.

Perhaps the prime minister owns a mansion, but it is a gift from the people. He lives there to please his subjects but his bedroom will be a small bare room with white walls and his mattress will be thin and hard.

He will get up at 3 a.m. and the ministers will visit him one by one for sanzen. The state will be very rich. The bridges, roads, public buildings, airports, waterworks and national parks will be of the highest quality and well looked after. Nature will be nature again and full of wild life, but the wild animals will be tame.

Re: You're enlightened – now what?

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Post by dwaltrip »

cvaidya1986 wrote: post #69
dwaltrip wrote: post #56

Enlightenment is an aspirational goal that can never be achieved. No human can fully understand any given situation. To do so, you must first fully understand the entire universe, as everything is connected. And that is of course utterly impossible. I say this as someone who has found great value in Buddhist philosophy and a personal meditation practice.

Are you sure?

No I’m not absolutely sure. I’d love to learn how I might be wrong. But I feel pretty good about the idea.

Do you have any concrete theories of how a human can _fully_ understand the entire universe?

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Post by MaxBarraclough »

Liquix wrote: post #11

Zen saying: "Before enlightenment chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment chop wood, carry water" . Some more from Ram Dass: “Just because you are seeing divine light, experiencing waves of bliss, or conversing with Gods and Goddesses is no reason to not know your zip code.” "If you see yourself as God and then you come back from this state and somebody says, "Hey, Sam, empty the garbage!" it catches you back int…

Your first quote reminded me of this from Bruce Lee:

> Before I learned the art, a punch was just a punch, and a kick, just a kick. After I learned the art, a punch was no longer a punch, a kick, no longer a kick. Now that I understand the art, a punch is just a punch and a kick is just a kick.

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Post by robaato »

robaato wrote: post #84

Jan Willem van der Wetering "A Glimpse of Nothingness" Would there ever be a time, I thought while I brushed my teeth, when meditation is an accepted general activity? "Where is Father?" "Father is meditating." "Oh." Father is meditating. He often does. The children meditate too when they have a chance. And Mother. And the neighbors. They are all disciples of the master of the neighborhood. There will be new classes,…

Oh and read the rest of his writings to get a feel for what enlightenment is :)

Re: You're enlightened – now what?

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Post by MrsHippy »

use load cells, esp8266, & hx711 to weigh your (legal)fruiting substrate as it dries.. this way evaporation rate can be logged accurately and wet yields can be monitored.. Load cells should also be used to hang your drying racks to form a complete track and trace system.. I think enlightenment should be shared if you love your neighbor.
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