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How poker and a spaceship imposter game make you better at life

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Re: How poker and a spaceship imposter game make you better at life

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An anecdote: I play a “home” online poker game with friends every Friday since quarantine started. It has been a great way to have some weekend fun and hangout (we zoom while we play). I love the “all-in” moments when you see the odds displayed for each hand and there’s still at least a turn/river left to watch. Watching the odds play out and seeing the occasional 3% chance win is so fun. I’d love to see odds annotat…

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Re: How poker and a spaceship imposter game make you better at life

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post #6

An anecdote: I play a “home” online poker game with friends every Friday since quarantine started. It has been a great way to have some weekend fun and hangout (we zoom while we play). I love the “all-in” moments when you see the odds displayed for each hand and there’s still at least a turn/river left to watch. Watching the odds play out and seeing the occasional 3% chance win is so fun. I’d love to see odds annotat…

What software do you use for the actual poker game?

Re: How poker and a spaceship imposter game make you better at life

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post #3

There are many, many life lessons I have drawn from my youth spent playing poker semi-professionally. Perhaps the most consistently useful one was that, as mentioned in the article, one's performance should not be assessed purely on the outcome. In poker, you can play perfectly and still lose. That is true in almost every field of life. Or, to give it more nuance, you can play exceptionally well and only win a little…

There is also an interesting life analogy that I like : During a tournament, an often underestimated skill is choosing your table (and thus your opponents).

Re: How poker and a spaceship imposter game make you better at life

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I'm not really sure why they chose Among Us as an alternative to poker. Sure, it has a little chance and unknown information, but among us is really more of a social study to see how easily people can be swayed into voting people off. In my experience if I talk confidently and get the first word in it's pretty easy to cast aside suspicion. In fact, one meta strategy is to kill someone, then report the body yourself a…

There are several 'visual' tasks (medical scan, taking out trash, shields, shooting astroids) that allow's one to prove they are a ligitimate crewmember. Casting doubt on you as a 'self reporter'. Also things like the security camara's add even more dimensions to the game.

Re: How poker and a spaceship imposter game make you better at life

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It's been interesting to see how popular "Among Us" has become. (I guess the problem for me is that, ahem, it's best played with a group of friends...) It does seem to make for a good game on Twitch, since several streamers can play together or with their chats.

"Among Us" seems to be displacing the previous game "Town of Salem". Maybe people like the more real-time aspects? ("Among Us" also seems to inspire more "drama".) They're both in the "social deduction" genre: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_deduction_game There's an old game called "Mafia" in the same genre. (I guess "Mafia-like" might be a bit ambiguous as the name of a genre.)

Re: How poker and a spaceship imposter game make you better at life

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I'm not really sure why they chose Among Us as an alternative to poker. Sure, it has a little chance and unknown information, but among us is really more of a social study to see how easily people can be swayed into voting people off. In my experience if I talk confidently and get the first word in it's pretty easy to cast aside suspicion. In fact, one meta strategy is to kill someone, then report the body yourself a…

There are several 'visual' tasks (medical scan, taking out trash, shields, shooting astroids) that allow's one to prove they are a ligitimate crewmember. Casting doubt on you as a 'self reporter'. Also things like the security camara's add even more dimensions to the game.

There are so many things that can be configured (eg visual tasks can be turned off because they make the game trivially easy for a group that plays together often), it's interesting watching people adapt the game to their group and play level/maturity in the game.

The game is so simple, and the meta-game is pretty simple too, but the meta-meta-game changes every round as people die and are voted off. It really hurt my brain quite a bit until I figured out that I was watching a meta-meta-game; and it still does hurt my brain a bit.

Re: How poker and a spaceship imposter game make you better at life

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This is a nitpick but maybe a slightly interesting one: in theory it's true that chess is not a "game" in this sense, but in practice it is not true. The "imperfect information" is all the paths that exist past the horizon of computation. When playing another human, that horizon is not very far away at all, so there is plenty of uncertainty. And it is absolutely possible to bluff to take advantage of a less well informed opponent, for instance by playing a move that may be less optimal, but is more likely to provoke a response that you know is bad but your opponent does not. At the very highest level this is less and less possible, and it does devolve into more of a computational exercise than a game, but I would argue that the same tactical constriction as skill improves exists in poker as well.

Re: How poker and a spaceship imposter game make you better at life

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post #3

There are many, many life lessons I have drawn from my youth spent playing poker semi-professionally. Perhaps the most consistently useful one was that, as mentioned in the article, one's performance should not be assessed purely on the outcome. In poker, you can play perfectly and still lose. That is true in almost every field of life. Or, to give it more nuance, you can play exceptionally well and only win a little…

There is also an interesting life analogy that I like : During a tournament, an often underestimated skill is choosing your table (and thus your opponents).

That skill applies to poker but only to cash games, not tournaments. In a tournament you can't choose your table, it's assigned randomly.

Re: How poker and a spaceship imposter game make you better at life

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The advantage of games is that you can combine unbiased evaluation, the opportunity of a short cycle and minimal cost (mostly time). Most superior mammals are learning by playing for a reason.

> minimal cost

Unless we're talking about poker and you develop a gambling addiction.

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