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BBC Sound Effects made available to download for use under RemArc Licence (2018)

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Re: BBC Sound Effects made available to download for use under RemArc Licence (2018)

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Post by Ntrails »

JdeBP wrote: post #56
bb123 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thats very interesting, you seem to know a lot about how the BBC is structured. Do you mind if I ask how the for-profit prohibition of their charter aligns with the ad-supported international BBC News websites and broadcasts on BBC Worldwide?

I know as much as anyone else who has actually read the Royal Charter. (-: The Charter covers "UK Public Services" and the "World Service", as does the Agreement with the Minister of the Crown. The World Service is a specific thing, which you can read about for yourself. * So public service broadcasting to other countries isn't within the terms of the Charter. * Commercial activities are prohibited to the BBC itself.…

I'm missing something, obviously. I know the "commercial" BBC made a killing from Top Gear show sales to other regions, but surely the rights to sell it were not given to them for free by the nonprofit arm?

If the license fee pays to make show x, who _eventually_ profits from the sale of x to the US?

Re: BBC Sound Effects made available to download for use under RemArc Licence (2018)

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Post by bilekas »

unfunco wrote: post #10

These used to be released on vinyl, there was once an incident in Ireland whereby a record player was hidden in a tree and BBC sound effects records were played at night to scare some of the sheep that were part of a "King of the Sheep" competition. It was a big scandal at the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JLLB3fMqEw&feature=youtu.be...

Re: BBC Sound Effects made available to download for use under RemArc Licence (2018)

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Post by easytiger »

faceplanted wrote: post #60
easytiger wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you wonder why the answer is successive Tory government don't like the BBC at an ideological and personal level (hence why the BBC ends up having to pay the once free licence fees of old people) The unelected Labour opposition proposed activist shills took control of the editorial policy of not just the BBC but also print media. For anyone not familiar with the debate, the BBC is inexorably accused of both being…

> Both TV and Radio output quality has been absolutely eviscerated in the last 10 or so years Who was in power all that time?

Are you suggesting the editorial direction has been set by the government? Please provide evidence if so

Re: BBC Sound Effects made available to download for use under RemArc Licence (2018)

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Post by JdeBP »

nottorp wrote: post #33
JdeBP wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Go to the actual BBC page, the RES Acropolis one that has been pointed to in this very discussion several times, and your question is answered in the third sentence.

"Yes" would have been shorter.

Shortness wasn't the goal. Making you read what is in front of you, for yourself, was. And "yes" is not even the answer.

Re: BBC Sound Effects made available to download for use under RemArc Licence (2018)

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Post by easytiger »

MrsPeaches wrote: post #59
easytiger wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you wonder why the answer is successive Tory government don't like the BBC at an ideological and personal level (hence why the BBC ends up having to pay the once free licence fees of old people) The unelected Labour opposition proposed activist shills took control of the editorial policy of not just the BBC but also print media. For anyone not familiar with the debate, the BBC is inexorably accused of both being…

Are you saying that Labour controls print media and the BBC in the UK?

> Are you saying that Labour controls print media and the BBC in the UK?

No, how did you arrive at that invalid summation?

Re: BBC Sound Effects made available to download for use under RemArc Licence (2018)

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Post by JdeBP »

Ntrails wrote: post #61
JdeBP wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know as much as anyone else who has actually read the Royal Charter. (-: The Charter covers "UK Public Services" and the "World Service", as does the Agreement with the Minister of the Crown. The World Service is a specific thing, which you can read about for yourself. * So public service broadcasting to other countries isn't within the terms of the Charter. * Commercial activities are prohibited to the BBC itself.…

I'm missing something, obviously. I know the "commercial" BBC made a killing from Top Gear show sales to other regions, but surely the rights to sell it were not given to them for free by the nonprofit arm? If the license fee pays to make show x, who _eventually_ profits from the sale of x to the US?

I've no idea where the profits made by the commercial subsidiaries eventually go, except that the BBC itself is not allowed to operate for profit. That said, you seem to be missing that giving something away for free and selling it for a profit are not exhaustive of the possibilities. (-:

Re: BBC Sound Effects made available to download for use under RemArc Licence (2018)

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Post by celticninja »

JdeBP wrote: post #67
Ntrails wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm missing something, obviously. I know the "commercial" BBC made a killing from Top Gear show sales to other regions, but surely the rights to sell it were not given to them for free by the nonprofit arm? If the license fee pays to make show x, who _eventually_ profits from the sale of x to the US?

I've no idea where the profits made by the commercial subsidiaries eventually go, except that the BBC itself is not allowed to operate for profit. That said, you seem to be missing that giving something away for free and selling it for a profit are not exhaustive of the possibilities. (-:

The BBC do definitely make and take profits from their productions.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/mar/11/top-gear-bbc-j...

The key is, I think, that a UK resident should not have to pay anything (other than the license fee) or be subject to advertising to enjoy BBC content.

So something produced for a UK audience can be sold outside the UK and the profits used by the BBC to make more content.

Re: BBC Sound Effects made available to download for use under RemArc Licence (2018)

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Post by b112 »

JdeBP wrote: post #67
Ntrails wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm missing something, obviously. I know the "commercial" BBC made a killing from Top Gear show sales to other regions, but surely the rights to sell it were not given to them for free by the nonprofit arm? If the license fee pays to make show x, who _eventually_ profits from the sale of x to the US?

I've no idea where the profits made by the commercial subsidiaries eventually go, except that the BBC itself is not allowed to operate for profit. That said, you seem to be missing that giving something away for free and selling it for a profit are not exhaustive of the possibilities. (-:

Definitions of these things vary greatly in each country, but a 'non-profit' may sell things, where I am.

What's important is that the 'selling of things' is targeted to 'recoup costs', not 'make profit'.

An example, hosting an event and charging $5 per seat, to recoup the costs of renting the theatre. And to pay talent.

Maybe this is different in the UK?

And, you keep saying "operate for profit", which makes me think it is part of their charter, instead of saying "non-profit" which makes me think of my above logic.

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