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Windows XP source code has leaked

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Re: Windows XP source code has leaked

#51

Forgeting about legality for a moment, this is great. Windows XP is probably the greatest operating system if you factor usability and how many people it has reached. It was also from a time where people still did not expect proprietary operating systems to be actively working against you. So it's great that this source will not be forever lost.

Nostalgia is, it seems, a hell of a drug.

Re: Windows XP source code has leaked

#53

Forgeting about legality for a moment, this is great. Windows XP is probably the greatest operating system if you factor usability and how many people it has reached. It was also from a time where people still did not expect proprietary operating systems to be actively working against you. So it's great that this source will not be forever lost.

> proprietary operating systems to be actively working against you Where is this happening ? Are we expecting this now ? What did I miss

Windows 10 is a resource hog and contains adware.

macOS ... Is special. Some of the most notable changes in the last few years have been to try to restrict what an app can do.

Re: Windows XP source code has leaked

#54

Forgeting about legality for a moment, this is great. Windows XP is probably the greatest operating system if you factor usability and how many people it has reached. It was also from a time where people still did not expect proprietary operating systems to be actively working against you. So it's great that this source will not be forever lost.

Completely agree. I was very slow to update XP, until both enough of a gap appeared, and Windows 7 established itself as the next high-usability Microsoft operating system.

Even then my use of Windows was low. I now have no need for it at all. From what I've heard Windows 10 is not in the same class.

Re: Windows XP source code has leaked

#55

Forgeting about legality for a moment, this is great. Windows XP is probably the greatest operating system if you factor usability and how many people it has reached. It was also from a time where people still did not expect proprietary operating systems to be actively working against you. So it's great that this source will not be forever lost.

> proprietary operating systems to be actively working against you Where is this happening ? Are we expecting this now ? What did I miss

yes. most of the things I see about windows vs linux involve "well you can just turn all the spyware stuff off, all you have to do is dive into these 10 menus and flip these switches" "Its easy to disable the ads in the start menu" etc etc. Even if you can turn the stuff off, the fact that you have to feels a lot like the OS working against the user.

Re: Windows XP source code has leaked

#56

Forgeting about legality for a moment, this is great. Windows XP is probably the greatest operating system if you factor usability and how many people it has reached. It was also from a time where people still did not expect proprietary operating systems to be actively working against you. So it's great that this source will not be forever lost.

Nostalgia is, it seems, a hell of a drug.

In early Windows XP days everybody said it was crap compared to Win2k. XP was the first one with product activation as well. And people called the Luna theme childish.

Then Vista came along and people said XP was the good one.

Re: Windows XP source code has leaked

#57
post #44

My immediate thought is whether researchers or investigative journalists will find cold hard US government backdoors. This is potentially big.

They won't. Such backdoors would have to be hidden from Joe Average Coder at Microsoft first and foremost. Coding for MS is not a livelong thing, you know? So any backdoor would a) be obfuscated and b) have some form of plausible deniability. If I would have to make them, they would look like strings of two or three bugs.

Likely you're right, but let's see if anything can become plausibly demonstrable after obsessive scrutiny. Like many situations in life, it may depend on whether someone determined / resourceful enough wants to do this. There may be no one with sufficient motivation.

Also, it's not just (allegedly) all of XP source that's been leaked:

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/the-windows-...

It's also Windows Server 2003, MS DOS 3.30, MS DOS 6.0, Windows 2000, Windows CE 3, Windows CE 4, Windows CE 5, Windows Embedded 7, Windows Embedded CE, Windows NT 3.5, and Windows NT 4!

That's a huge amount of stuff to analyse.

Re: Windows XP source code has leaked

#58

Forgeting about legality for a moment, this is great. Windows XP is probably the greatest operating system if you factor usability and how many people it has reached. It was also from a time where people still did not expect proprietary operating systems to be actively working against you. So it's great that this source will not be forever lost.

> proprietary operating systems to be actively working against you Where is this happening ? Are we expecting this now ? What did I miss

The amount of user data collected in Windows 10 for example. Next to no user benefits, just value extracted for Microsoft.

Automatic updates on reboot. For example when someone giving a presentation or class has to restart their computer for some reason (quite common in Windows still, or one just ran out of power). Boot up the computer, people waiting impatiently - and then have to wait for 5-30 minutes for the computer to finish updates before being able to use it. No way to cancel/post-pone, no time-estimates for when it will be done.

Re: Windows XP source code has leaked

#59

My immediate thought is whether researchers or investigative journalists will find cold hard US government backdoors. This is potentially big.

That would surprise me. Governements all over the world already received access to the source code to perform audits.

Besides, probably the quality was still low enough that you didn't need this, there were plenty of bugs that would grant a big organisation access.

Re: Windows XP source code has leaked

#60
post #50

I still keep my 12 year old legal copy of Windows XP available to be run as a VM via VirtualBox for occasions when I need to try out some Windows/DOS stuff - works pretty well :)

Not sure why you got downvoted (too off-topic? no idea), because this is imo actually a rather interesting point. And 'pretty well' feels like an understatement when it comes to performance (or at least snappiness): I have XP on a VM for a while just for software which didn't support 7. Despite being in a VM (VirtualBox), the thing feels snappier and faster than current day desktop OS (XFCE on Ubuntu, Windows 10, OSX…

Yeah - probably considered off-topic - I just couldn't help sharing the anecdotal tidbit :) My xperience(!) has been the same - boots within seconds and basically gets out of the way. No advertisements/analytics (that I know of), great to quickly check a Word document that doesn't render well in LibreOffice etc. I don't use it often though - Linux has truly come a long way that such occasions are getting rarer as time goes.
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