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Re: Mark in the Middle

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krapp wrote: post #189
notional wrote: post #172

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Last 24hrs top-performing pages in the US, for anyone who can't click the link. 1. Dan Bongino 2. Dan Bongino 3. Breitbart 4. Fox News 5. Robert Reich 6. NPR 7. Ben Shapiro 8. Dan Bongino 9. Mark Levin 10. Bernie Sanders This is curated by https://twitter.com/kevinroose I had to look up most of those names but if you're wondering, looking back a couple weeks it's usually 9/10 or 10/10 right-wing talk hosts/sources. I…

>It appears FB is essentially a right-wing mouth piece, idk if that is a controversial opinion, but the data appears that way, I think. Given that the common narrative around Facebook is that it, along with all other social media, is engaged in a leftist conspiracy to purge all conservative and right-wing speech from the internet, I'd say it would be.

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Re: Mark in the Middle

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Post by rocketpastsix »

hawkice wrote: post #190
notional wrote: post #172

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Last 24hrs top-performing pages in the US, for anyone who can't click the link. 1. Dan Bongino 2. Dan Bongino 3. Breitbart 4. Fox News 5. Robert Reich 6. NPR 7. Ben Shapiro 8. Dan Bongino 9. Mark Levin 10. Bernie Sanders This is curated by https://twitter.com/kevinroose I had to look up most of those names but if you're wondering, looking back a couple weeks it's usually 9/10 or 10/10 right-wing talk hosts/sources. I…

> It appears FB is essentially a right-wing mouth piece, idk if that is a controversial opinion, but the data appears that way, I think. I mean, mouthpiece can't possibly be the right term. Does anyone think they should forbid Fox News articles from being shared? If you don't want them moderating it away, and they aren't themselves recommending it, their role is pretty minor. The idea of Facebook is that when you pos…

mouth piece is a stretch. "Popular site for people who lean right of the aisle of the American congress" however is more apt for what Facebook is.

The problem isn't Fox News though (they are bad enough), its that fake news stories (generally right leaning) are easily crafted and shared at a significant pace on Facebook that is seemingly having a deep impact on the American electorate and government.

Re: Mark in the Middle

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Post by grawprog »

So, facebook employees are mad they're not allowed to censor things they disagree with that people post on facebook?

I don't understand how facebook came to be responsible for policing political opinions anyway.

In fact, I don't understand why employees at tech companies believe they have the right to police people's opinions period.

I see it amongst commenters here too. What gives any of these people the right to police the opinions of others?

Actually, just people in general these days seem to believe it's their right to enforce their views on others...

Re: Mark in the Middle

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Post by sagichmal »

xienze wrote: post #165
sagichmal wrote: post #140

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Yes, the Democrats would absolutely not be so nakedly malevolent. Is this not overwhelmingly apparent?

What in the world are you talking about? The whole reason Democrats are going on and on about this election year appointment is because they wanted to fill Scalia's seat in 2016 and Republicans held all the chips and said "nah, we're gonna wait until after the election." Don't take my word for it, look at what Hillary Clinton said: > The Republicans in the Senate and on the campaign trail who are calling for Justice…

> Yes of course there's a "you're being hypocritical" angle to everything,

That's the only angle! Democrats absolutely would not have blocked Scalia's replacement for a year, and even if they had, they would absolutely not have ignored the precedent they set and did the opposite thing now. This level of naked malevolence is exclusively the domain of the Republicans. And so _of course_ the Democrats should pack the court -- they should double the size of the bench. It's the only reasonable response to things so far. And that's not malevolence, that's equinimity.

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Post by [deleted] »

erik_seaberg wrote: post #194
notional wrote: post #172

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Last 24hrs top-performing pages in the US, for anyone who can't click the link. 1. Dan Bongino 2. Dan Bongino 3. Breitbart 4. Fox News 5. Robert Reich 6. NPR 7. Ben Shapiro 8. Dan Bongino 9. Mark Levin 10. Bernie Sanders This is curated by https://twitter.com/kevinroose I had to look up most of those names but if you're wondering, looking back a couple weeks it's usually 9/10 or 10/10 right-wing talk hosts/sources. I…

Could it be that left-wing pageviews are divided among more sources so none of them individually get this much traffic?

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Re: Mark in the Middle

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Post by patmcc »

jamiequint wrote: post #157
zimpenfish wrote: post #48

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> Do not confuse disagreeing with someone as that person being morally sub-human If your disagreement with that person is about whether someone else is considered less of a human than they are (by dint of race, wealth, sexuality, whatever), it's probably ok to consider them morally bankrupt on that basis.

No, it's actually not, because people have different moral foundations, and many people value loyalty/authority/sanctity over care/fairness. It doesn't mean they don't care about care/fairness, it just means they don't make it their moral priority. If you refuse to engage with these people and view them all as sub-human there's no path forward for society.

If someone has "moral foundations" that cause them to think that, for example, a particular race of people is not worthy of life, I will refuse to engage with them in reasonable debate. There's no midpoint between nazis and non-nazis; the nazis are wrong and should be handled by force.

This may or may not be the case with ICE, the GOP, etc. but fundamentally there are some people who should not be engaged with in this way.

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Post by Akronymus »

umvi wrote: post #180

If I had to guess it's because facebook has a larger portion of older conservative folks than other social media platforms? If you look at /r/politics on reddit you see the opposite problem (over-representation - nearly 100% - liberal news sources) which is probably because older conservatives don't use reddit? It can't be healthy for entire social media platforms to be completely dominated by one party or the other.

With /r/politics you get HEAVILY downvoted if you voice anything conservative or even just defending someone conservative from unjust accusations.

So much so, that you can only post new comments every 10 minutes, while they keep on dogpiling you.

Re: Mark in the Middle

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Post by 13415 »

mrfusion wrote: post #174

Isn’t it weird you wouldn’t talk about politics in most settings especially among people you aren’t close to, but it’s ok to spam your 200 friends with political articles?

Whom are you referring to? I talk about politics with anyone who is interested in it. (Of course, it's also important not to talk about politics with anyone not interested in it, but that's another matter.)

Re: Mark in the Middle

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Post by dhruvrrp »

linuxftw wrote: post #144
_qulr wrote: post #122

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> It's minor, but "A major sell to candidates is our office perks include free food" "with work from home, we’ve lost a huge financial part of our package" https://www.levels.fyi/company/Facebook/salaries/Software-En... Perhaps they don't know how much food costs, having never gone to the grocery store. ("How much does a gallon of milk cost" is the classic political gotcha question.) Or they don't know how to cook. T…

Young urbanites don't cook. They don't drive, how do they get groceries. They probably have a single frying pan. For these people, free food at work might be a large portion of their daily caloric intake, outside of the beer/booze.

I completely agree. Not everyone knows, or even wants to cook 3 meals a day (me included). For people who have gotten free food through their work, it is a big deal.

Now they either have to make stuff themselves (which costs time) or source it from outside (which costs money).

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