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Bleeding-edge tech will kill your startup

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Re: Bleeding-edge tech will kill your startup

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Has any of commenters read the article? Looks like everyone talks about using bleeding edge tech in startup and how its bad, but this article is about building a bleeding edge product and how difficult is to sell such product (probably because everyone know that using bleeding edge products is dangerous :) )

Not even about bleeding edge products. It's a lengthy article about the pitfalls of entering a market with no market validation, which the author slapped lipstick on and gave this sexy title.

Exactly, its a classic we have a solution, but not a problem-to-solve let alone a product (yet).

“But guess what, they had no idea how to use our tool or integrate it within their workflow. And to be honest, nor did we. Adoption was bleak and feedback was dry—silence in startups is not golden.”

Re: Bleeding-edge tech will kill your startup

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Had a $4 mouse from the dollar store. Watched some youtube videos, and decided to splurge and bought the latest and greatest bleeding-edge Mx master 3, at $129 and 3225% more expensive. Despite all the great reviews and hype. I'm kind of hating it. Damn thing is so heavy. It feels like I'm moving a brick around. Was going to return it, but now I'm saving it for a protest.

Best mouse I've found is the Logitech G Pro, it annoys me that it's full of stupid RGB lights, but it has the precision and speed of a good gaming mouse without being too ridiculous in design or cost ~$60

That Logitech mouse shape is basically perfect. I've been using mice with that body profile for 15 years now. I periodically check up on the newest iterations to have my replacement bookmarked, but this decade old one seems content to keep chugging on.

Re: Bleeding-edge tech will kill your startup

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Yeah, it's kind of like the classic "break one law at a time" rule. If you're hauling drugs, don't speed. Getting away with just the one thing is hard enough. I think Discord is one good example of this sort of trade-off. Single, pretty standard type of app that improves on its predecessors, with some bleeding-edge engineering: https://blog.discord.com/why-discord-is-switching-from-go-to... >Discord has never been af…

> Yeah, it's kind of like the classic "break one law at a time" rule. If you're hauling drugs, don't speed. Getting away with just the one thing is hard enough. I wonder if not speeding is enough to give police officers a reason to make a drugs search in some places.

Lol.

Czech here, I was stopped by the police once in the night on an empty 4-lane road doing exactly the speed limit. They breathalyzed me, looked at the zero and one of them said: "you know, when someone keeps the limit at midnight on this stretch of the road, they are usually drunk".

Re: Bleeding-edge tech will kill your startup

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Cans of tuna are cheaper and tastier.

As a Vegan, I'm repulsed at throwing dead fish at people. Also they kill dolphins when they catch them. Dolphins are "people kind" best friend in the ocean.

How about vegetable soup?

Furthermore, there’s plenty of dolphin safe tuna out there, which does mean something as designations go:

http://savedolphins.eii.org/news/entry/what-does-dolphin-saf...

Re: Bleeding-edge tech will kill your startup

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> Yeah, it's kind of like the classic "break one law at a time" rule. If you're hauling drugs, don't speed. Getting away with just the one thing is hard enough. I wonder if not speeding is enough to give police officers a reason to make a drugs search in some places.

Lol. Czech here, I was stopped by the police once in the night on an empty 4-lane road doing exactly the speed limit. They breathalyzed me, looked at the zero and one of them said: "you know, when someone keeps the limit at midnight on this stretch of the road, they are usually drunk".

Next time a cop stops you for speeding, just explain, "I was speeding so you wouldn't be worried that I was drunk."

Re: Bleeding-edge tech will kill your startup

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Has any of commenters read the article? Looks like everyone talks about using bleeding edge tech in startup and how its bad, but this article is about building a bleeding edge product and how difficult is to sell such product (probably because everyone know that using bleeding edge products is dangerous :) )

Also the "bleeding edge product" in the article is some kind if analytics system that tells you the adoption rate of "components" (web widgets? Not sure) in your system. This might not exactly be what you think of when you hear bleeding edge, so take this article with a grain of salt.

Re: Bleeding-edge tech will kill your startup

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Has any of commenters read the article? Looks like everyone talks about using bleeding edge tech in startup and how its bad, but this article is about building a bleeding edge product and how difficult is to sell such product (probably because everyone know that using bleeding edge products is dangerous :) )

It's actually hilarious. So many people enjoy sharing their opinion on the headline rather than the content of the article.

Re: Bleeding-edge tech will kill your startup

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Just want to say this website is what I think a modern website should look like!

Loads in under 1 second, has a simple but very cool design, no needlessly heavy JS framework in sight, due to the images it's a bit heavy at around 2.7MB, but still pretty good.

Re: Bleeding-edge tech will kill your startup

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Low end cortex-m cores are pretty cheap these days. More modern designs and processes use silicon more efficiently, so you get more capability for the same raw material cost. Also, you can do a surprising amount with an 8-bit MCU. Lots of very capable 3D printers still run on AVR based controllers. Often times, you're limited by peripherals or memory size more than raw CPU speed. As a baseline, it's relatively easy t…

Why wouldn't you use the more powerful chip if it's readily available, cheap, and efficient? Much better to update the hardware when you have a chance than to stick with an obsolete part until the rug is pulled from under you and it's EOL'd.

I'm not disagreeing with you, but I don't think it's usually as simple as that for anything useful of non trivial complexity.

Most of the time, more power also brings more complexity. Cortex-M7 mcus, for example, typically can't reach their max CPU throughput without turning on instruction and data caches or "Tightly Coupled Memory". Data caching opens up a whole can of worms when interacting with memory mapped peripherals. Some MCUs with data caches have peripherals glued to them that are fundamentally incompatible with caching, leading to having to use indirect tricks like using DMA transfers to interact with them. TCM partitions your available memory space, leading to arbitrarily complex application specific linker scripts.

Newer chips are sometimes less capable on different axes. It's easier to use a 5V chip to interact with a 5V circuit, rather than a "better" MCU that is only 3.3v tolerant and requires a filtered 1.8V power rail for its internal circuitry. More complex CPUs generally have less predictable and potentially slower interrupt timing too.

Spinning new hardware also isn't cheap like spinning new software is, both in terms of dollars and in externalities. A popular community maintained firmware dropping support for an old but popular hardware generation that's become burdensome to maintain due to incremental feature bloat may be perfectly justified by the volunteer developers, but it does effectively turn that old hardware into e-waste. A company producing widgets with embedded components in it might want to defer the risk and schedule hit of switching to a new MCU architecture for as long as possible, in order to balance overall company goals and limited engineering resources. Justifying engineer months of work "because it's better and everyone will like working on it more!" is a lot tougher to prioritize than "because we only have enough stock left for 6 months and then we're scraping ebay".

Re: Bleeding-edge tech will kill your startup

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There is tons of human value in doing things good enough rather than perfect. Why implement quicksort when bubble sort will give you the result you need just as "instantly" and be easier to verify? Why bother procedurally iterating line by line through a 1GB of text in python, when you can call f.read().split("\n") inside a list comprehension and probably have it run just as fast because you have a 64-bit 4Ghz supers…

Ah, I would have thought it was more like "feedback loop" going to "feedback loop with DSP" going to "feedback loop with DSP with wireless" or similar. I think I am thinking more specifically about the flight feedback example compared to what you are describing, but I'm definitely all for using cheap powerful ARM chips in place of obsolete stuff. I'm just hoping that most of that spare computing power was used for so…

Often spare cycles can be used to sleep the cpu for longer cpu intervals and save power. Faster processors are often more efficient per watt, which can save a bit of power.
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