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Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by gohbgl »

sio8ohPi wrote: post #226
RandallBrown wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As far as I know, covers aren't fair use. https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/posting-cover-songs-on-yo... Thousands (millions?) of people post covers on YouTube with no issue, but sometimes people get unlucky. I don't think monetization makes a difference in the eyes of the law (maybe it would for proving damages? I'm not a lawyer.) What's unusual is that he said he got 5 copyright strikes without telling him why. I'…

Looking at his other videos this seems like a clear cut case of copyright infringement, if he's not obtaining mechanical licenses. I don't understand why anyone is up in arms about this.

> I don't understand why anyone is up in arms about this.

Because copyright is controversial.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by chongli »

titzer wrote: post #357
titzer wrote: post #324

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's mostly because: A.) They don't know why, algorithms did it. B.) They can't be bothered looking into it, because you aren't spending enough money. C.) Their systems have now classified you as a scammer and you are now irredemable. D.) They don't want to leak any details that help scammers learn how to get around automated anti-fraud/abuse systems. edit to add: E.) The reason might be something utterly embarrassin…

Let me also add a counter-point to my own point: Google is subject to an absolute metric crapton of abuse. With a revenue stream that massive and warchest that huge, they are a constant target for scammers the world over. It's a total warzone out there, not just in terms of cybersecurity but also in terms of fraud and abuse. If you think Nigerian prince scams are bad, just put some serious (nefarious) brainpower behi…

But counter-point to my own counter-point. That's really no excuse for being so unresponsive to actual users. Scaling to a billion users worldwide, everything a moonshot--this mindset underlies all of their failings.

This is exactly right! Google has taken all the benefits of scale and made many billions of dollars in the process. At the same time, they’ve externalized all of the social costs onto their users. Hard problems like moderation, customer support, anti-fraud have been automated in an opaque fashion that leaves users with little or no recourse when things go wrong.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by themacguffinman »

kelnos wrote: post #365
lucb1e wrote: post #238

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given that the rights holders are litigious and the ones with the money, if I were Google I'd also be taking the content down rather than being a sitting duck waiting to get sued whenever a random user clicks the dispute button on their strike notification. Of course, taking all other videos down and disallowing to open another channel ever, those are not measures which should be used until both parties agree that th…

The thing is, Google has nothing to fear here. The DMCA -- as much as we generally think it's a poorly-thought-out law -- already handles this. There's no need for Google to do anything beyond handling DMCA notices in accordance with the law, but they've decided -- likely because it's better for business -- to cater to the needs of large rights holders at the expense of individuals. As long as they handle DMCA notice…

> Google has nothing to fear here

Viacom still sued Google 10 years ago and dragged them through three court rulings before Google agreed to settle [1]. It didn't matter that early rulings favored YouTube on the matter of DMCA compliance, the content owners will find a way to hurt you and lock you in court. After Google settled the case, they created Content ID and Viacom stopped attacking them.

It frustrates that everyone seems to miss the cause whenever this kind of stuff comes up. Does anyone actually think Google likes being pushed around by copyright holders? Does it make any sense to you for Google to want to create this insanely complex system if all they have to do is handle DMCA notices like they did before Content ID? The content owners have always pushed for something beyond DMCA. YouTube complies because there is something to fear.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viacom_International_Inc._v._Y....

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by kauffj »

wazanator wrote: post #272
kauffj wrote: post #175

More than 25,000 YouTubers now publish to the LBRY protocol, with more coming over every day, for reasons just like this. The total reach of these creators is more than 400,000,000 people. We're just rolling out our mainstream video product explicitly designed to compete with YouTube @ https://odysee.com To learn more about the protocol itself, check out https://lbry.tech

No offense but I'm not interested in dealing with crypto to post and watch short tutorial videos.

Many people didn't want to send email in the 1990s either.

A blockchain is the only technology that allows a simultaneously decentralized and coherent view of what exists on a network along with local control over identity.

I think blockchain sucks in many ways and is a big hassle. We try to hide it as much as possible. It's still the right solution to this problem.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by kauffj »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #239
kauffj wrote: post #175

More than 25,000 YouTubers now publish to the LBRY protocol, with more coming over every day, for reasons just like this. The total reach of these creators is more than 400,000,000 people. We're just rolling out our mainstream video product explicitly designed to compete with YouTube @ https://odysee.com To learn more about the protocol itself, check out https://lbry.tech

I was kinda interested until I hit the "100 LBC to get started", and realized it was a blockchain/cryptocurrency thing.

There is no other method to allow local control over publishing identity combined with a coherent view of a decentralized network.

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Post by stickfigure »

pdkl95 wrote: post #344

> I run a YouTube channel that is over 10 years old , has over 770,000 subscribers , almost 600 public videos , 120,000,000 views When writing software involved in managing a live, public, massively multi-user system, the traditional unix-style commands that are immediate, often silent, and capable of damaging effects become a really easy way to shoot yourself in the foot. Worse, some commands might let you accidenta…

Two days ago I restored a customer's data from backup because they typed "ALL" and hit OK on a dialog that said "This will change ALL of your things, type ALL to confirm". This dialog only pops up if N > 100, and normally makes you type the number (ALL is a special case). I just do not know how to make this more idiotproof short of making them fax in the request.

No matter what you think is sane, some insane person will prove you wrong. In this case, tiredness + ESL = bad reading comprehension. It's going to happen.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by lucb1e »

eropple wrote: post #333
lucb1e wrote: post #75

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Does it have to? Can we not have content made by whoever feels like it, like many of the articles popular on HN are not for profit, none of the (often insightful) comments are, the plethora of games and tools people create and share for free, etc.? For professional videos, until there is a law that specifies that a monopoly (currently Google YouTube does seem like the only place where money making is possible) has to…

> Can we not have content made by whoever feels like it Sure! We can definitely have charity content. Most of the content out there is. Somebody's paying for most of the content most people want to watch, though.

You mean paying bandwidth-wise? Because if you want bittorrent... we can do bittorrent. Bandwidth doesn't need to cost anything and can be made to prefer intra-ISP traffic quite easily. Better for everyone.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by moltar »

pwillia7 wrote: post #467
pdkl95 wrote: post #344

> I run a YouTube channel that is over 10 years old , has over 770,000 subscribers , almost 600 public videos , 120,000,000 views When writing software involved in managing a live, public, massively multi-user system, the traditional unix-style commands that are immediate, often silent, and capable of damaging effects become a really easy way to shoot yourself in the foot. Worse, some commands might let you accidenta…

Because that would be sprints not spent making more money for Alphabet shareholders

But that’s not true though. Creators create content and make money with ads. No creators = no ad platform.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by tomerico »

birdmanjeremy wrote: post #103
edgartaor wrote: post #33

The thing is, this is not only a YouTube channel, it's a small business. Google is literally shutting down a small business without any proof. You could think that it's somewhat illegal to do, but apparently it's not.

Can it be both a small business and "non-commercial in nature"? Because that's at the crux of his fair use claim I think.

Fair use doesn’t require the usage to be non-commercial, otherwise news sites wouldn’t exist as they are today.

It’s one of the aspect that the usage is evaluated on, but not a requirement.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by Polylactic_acid »

tacLog wrote: post #353
Polylactic_acid wrote: post #247

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I have been hosting my own email using mailinabox. The tool is so painless I suggest more people should use it. The only ongoing maintenance I have had to manage is rebooting it to apply updates. The whole thing is backed up with a built in backup tool that rsyncs the data to my home server. The only downside is you lose that automatic email filtering thing gmail does.

> mailinabox How bad is life without that filter?

Its not really then end of the world. It just means I need to unsubscribe from newsletters manually rather than letting google dump them in the trash automatically. I would like to see server side email filtering though since my thunderbird filters are useless when my desktop is off and I check with my phone.

I think I largely have a herd immunity from spam since no one sends spam that will automatically be filtered by what 99.99% of users use.

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