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Post by rtsil »

giddhhgcfygfg wrote: post #260
Eiriksmal wrote: post #156

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I also find your first point to be a truly indispensable tool. How else do you know what they call carbon fiber in German? [0] But the second is a touchy area. In fact, Wikipedia's co-founder recently wrote a blog post detailing how its neutral point-of-view policy has flopped, in the name of fighting false balance. [1] His examples are pretty embarrassing, but more important in that Google points human "Search Quali…

As a couple of other responses have indicated, this is not a reliable way to translate terms. Another bit of anecdotal evidence on translation: I recently wanted to find the idiomatic French for "electronics packaging." Google Translate gets it wrong, and there's no French wiki page to refer to. The source that came up with the goods was the "translations in context" snippets here: https://www.linguee.com/english-fre…

Linguee is not a reference either for English to French, simply because most of the side-by-side translations it uses are bad translations; and also because it mixes French and Canadian sources, which are sometimes completely unrelated to the point that a native French won't understand a Canadian translation and vice-versa.

Deepl, from the same company, is much better and is currently the best online translator.

Re: Wikipedia is getting a new look

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Post by SomewhatLikely »

SippinLean wrote: post #315
toxik wrote: post #257

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PSA: old.reddit.com is so much better in these regards. I use it on my phone too, with some custom css to make things bigger. There is also i.reddit.com.

I'm writing a custom skin (CSS) to turn New Reddit into Old Reddit for when they inevitably, sadly, turn off old.reddit.com

Is all of the data even available? Posts don't show the author name on the front page and many comments are hidden under links on the new UX from the comment page.

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Post by acolumb »

skeletonjelly wrote: post #364
0xy wrote: post #343

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New reddit feels like they hired 6 junior React developers and put a gun to their head telling them to rewrite the website in React in 6 months or else. It's unbelievably slow.

Funny yet accurate! I wonder what's causing them from sunsetting old.reddit...usage? An individual? I will never use new.reddit, I tried to once but it's such a poorer UX

Making UXs for desktop that share design elements with touchscreens will always be a mess.

It's my biggest fear for the future of macOS development given the recent announcement of Big Sur and ARM.

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Post by maple3142 »

systemvoltage wrote: post #74
m0ck wrote: post #43

Just in case someone here is not aware of Wikiwand: https://www.wikiwand.com/ I use it for 2 years now and it works just right.

I disagree, this is worse in every way. Too much white space. Literally every website today needs to reduce the padding and margins by 80% and they could present the same data in dense, single page without scrolling. Also large fonts need to die. I love HN because I can see so much in one shot, can always increase fonts with Ctrl +

I always found that reading a wall of English texts are painful when the font is small, and there are no enough spacing between them.

Re: Wikipedia is getting a new look

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Post by __float »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #305
jdlrobson wrote: post #286

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Okay but that's an issue with UX and discoverability which is very different from "language editions isn’t there at all". How would you solve this given the limited space? A label saying languages is the mosy obvious but real estate is a little limited. I'd hope that if the icon was prominent in desktop with a label that would reinforce its discoverability.

> How would you solve this given the limited space? A label saying languages is the mosy obvious but real estate is a little limited. Try looking at a wikipedia page on your phone. You could replace the 文A button with one that said "antidisestablishmentarianism" and there would still be plenty of space. It's floating at the left of an empty row.

I agree it totally could be improved. Perhaps they're being careful? Elsewhere in the comments, someone showed that logged in users have more items in that bar (https://imgur.com/llv2rtc). That might not work so well in portrait.

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Post by tomcatfish »

naveguese wrote: post #335

French Wikipedia looks so good: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/France Anyone know if I can make this the default look whenever I use Wikipedia?

This is the upgrade they are talking about! French Wikipedia is one of the trail wikis. Go to this [1] link and search for "Use Legacy Vector". Uncheck this and you will start seeing the new look on Wikipedia.

NOTE: It looks like you might have to do this for each MediaWiki site for now, but it is not too difficult if you are intentionally trying to opt-in.

[1] : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsec...

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Post by neiman »

Uehreka wrote: post #19

If someone asked me to critique the UX of Wikipedia, the first two things I’d point out would be that I almost never use the left hand side bar (and I have a feel almost no one does) and that when paragraphs are that wide they become harder to read (especially when they snake around floated images). Not changing for 10 years, watching as some trends fade and others become law-of-the-land, and then making two changes…

> I have a feel almost no one does

I use it all the time for switching the same article in different languages.

Re: Wikipedia is getting a new look

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Post by abrowne »

I wondered we they were still talking about long lines, but then I remembered I have a userstyle in Stylus:

    #mw-content-text blockquote,
    #mw-content-text ol,
    #mw-content-text p,
    #mw-content-text ul {
        max-width: 40em;
    }
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