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Post by m0zg »

jjoonathan wrote: post #142
maxwellg wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AWS isn't a bullet to bite

? AWS is run like a gigantic social experiment in "how half-assed and crusty can we make it and still have people pay?" The reason we put up with them is because A. they're the new IBM, nobody gets fired for choosing AWS, B. you can reliably reach a human who will at least give you a straight answer when you start to suspect that the AI-powered auto-scaling is actually marketing fluff sprayed over a double/halve cron…

^ My impression as well, after spending nearly $200K of my clients' money on AWS. I use GCP for my own work (+ a bunch of on-prem hardware) FWIW, but "the new IBM" phenomenon and "half assedness" is very real and palpable in the case of AWS.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by stainforth »

nautilus12 wrote: post #136
busterarm wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's because unlike AWS and Azure, they don't actually use it.

That explains everything. Only sell what you yourself would find useful.

But what about the Scarface rule: "Never get high on your own supply"?

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by avianlyric »

perakojotgenije wrote: post #86

YouTube's Copyright System Isn't Broken. The World's Is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Jwo5qc78QU

I think if you watch OPs video you would agree that in this case YouTubes systems is also broken.

It’s kind of ridiculous that YouTube accept claims against an entire video without _any_ evidence, or even a description of what copyrighted material is being infringed on.

Instead it seems that YouTube will simply let someone claim that a video has copyrighted content without explanation (and in violation of the DMCA), and delete creators based on that.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by kristofferR »

kllrnohj wrote: post #123
dalbasal wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Landlords and tenants have contracts, and there are rules about what and how these are enforceable.

So does copyright law, and it sounds like the creator received 5 DMCA notices. So yes getting a lawyer would still be the correct course of action.

He hasn't received any DMCA notices, Youtube don't do those - since DMCA gives creators fair use rights and have punishments for fradulent reports.

Youtube has its own "extra jurisdictional" copyright system.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by blackearl »

kllrnohj wrote: post #123
dalbasal wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Landlords and tenants have contracts, and there are rules about what and how these are enforceable.

So does copyright law, and it sounds like the creator received 5 DMCA notices. So yes getting a lawyer would still be the correct course of action.

Youtube works in its own little court, they're not real DMCA notices. Otherwise companies wouldn't be allowed to blanket claim random stuff with no repercussions.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by retsibsi »

birdmanjeremy wrote: post #103
edgartaor wrote: post #33

The thing is, this is not only a YouTube channel, it's a small business. Google is literally shutting down a small business without any proof. You could think that it's somewhat illegal to do, but apparently it's not.

Can it be both a small business and "non-commercial in nature"? Because that's at the crux of his fair use claim I think.

That's the bit that doesn't ring true to me, his "non-commercial" claim. I'm not at all suggesting that he deserves the treatment he's getting, but it doesn't seem like he's being entirely straightforward here. Can anyone who knows the law weigh in on whether I'm missing something about the distinction between 'commercial' and 'monetized via advertising'?

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Post by monoideism »

nemothekid wrote: post #61

I've seen this on Twitter, Reddit and now HN, so I assume there will be enough buzz for Google to do something. I expect his channel to be undeleted, then a Twitter apology, then to repeat this all over again with another channel with sufficient clout in 5-6 months. It's a complete shitshow.

Meanwhile, all the smaller channels/businesses without that clout that get suddenly and automatically shut down die a quiet death.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by nimih »

fwip wrote: post #83
austinkhale wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was involved a bidding war between GCP and AWS where each was offering a healthy six figures in free credits to move our business to their cloud. GCP was offering nearly 3x as many but ultimately I didn’t want to move to a service where there was a chance offerings were going to get the axe with no warning. Their reputation has indeed hurt them — at least in one instance.

What services got the axe with no warning? It seems like for all of the Google ex-products I can think of, they gave advance notice of at least a year.

I've worked at a couple "mid-sized" financial companies (i.e., not "tech" companies, but with a healthy need for various computer products and services) throughout my career where migration plans from one technology or provider to another were measured in years, and would sometimes get extended to the order of decades for larger migrations (e.g. moving core business functionality off a legacy mainframe system). A year or two notice that you'll need to migrate something important is really not feasible for a lot of businesses who would otherwise be very interested in outsourcing to a cloud provider.

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Post by mr_toad »

Ashanmaril wrote: post #5

Youtube is just so beyond broken at this point. I wish everyone could move somewhere else, but it's a catch 22. They're so cemented as the standard

If you need discovery.

But that’s not an excuse for every use case. For example a corporate training video with the URL emailed to every participant.

Why YouTube? Because everyone else does it. And nobody even began to think about looking at the possibility that there might be alternatives.

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Post by ISL »

jrockway wrote: post #133
mieko wrote: post #11

As someone who has been responsible for large cloud budgets, I wonder if Google is aware that their "support strategy" toward both content creators/contractors and customers across the entire brand has completely ruled out GCP for me. GCP might have great support. They may not have automated bots suspending accounts. They might actually follow the DMCA counterclaim process instead of some weird process on top of it.…

I think the important thing is to have a mitigation strategy. Google was very smart in how they commoditized cloud offerings by inventing Kubernetes. You can explode your manifests into GCP, you can explode your manifests into AWS, and it mostly works the same. Obviously you can really screw yourself by not having offsite backups (backup your GCP database into AWS, or vice-versa), or by using their proprietary stuff…

Perhaps the mitigation strategy for youtubers is to find something like RSS for video?

"Like this video, subscribe, and don't forget to add this channel to your video-RSS feed. Link in the description below." ?

Edit: Looks like this functionality already exists: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6224202?hl=en

Looks like Vimeo does too: https://help.rasa.io/hc/en-us/articles/360045535193-How-to-c...

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