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They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by mehrdadn »

notRobot wrote: post #100
mehrdadn wrote: post #92

It seems to me they might be speaking past each other? 1. He's trying to figure out which video infringed on what work . 2. YouTube is refusing by saying they don't know which part of which video infringed on other work. Not sure who's miscommunicating or what the reason is, but based on what he says, it seems this is what's happening. Anyone know if this sounds accurate?

> He's trying to figure out which video infringed on what work. He knows which videos strikes were issued on. He doesn't know what he did wrong. Like he says in the video, he isn't provided with any timestamps or details about what has entails those strikes and the channel deletion

Yeah you're right. It's confusing to me because he seems to claim different things at different points in the video. At one point he says he doesn't know specifically which part of which video is claimed to infringe on what, whereas in so many other parts he says Google doesn't have any details whatsoever, or (like in 4:48) he suggests Google is lying when it seems like he's actually conflating Google's mentions of details of the infringing work with the infringed work.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by jjoonathan »

maxwellg wrote: post #38
osipov wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ex-GCP here. Unless you shell out at least $15,000 / mo [1] for a Technical Account Manager (TAM) you are a nobody to Google Cloud. Hence all the bots suspending accounts and scripted processes. If you are a small business, bite the bullet and use AWS. [1] https://services.google.com/fh/files/misc/enterprise-support...

AWS isn't a bullet to bite

?

AWS is run like a gigantic social experiment in "how half-assed and crusty can we make it and still have people pay?"

The reason we put up with them is because A. they're the new IBM, nobody gets fired for choosing AWS, B. you can reliably reach a human who will at least give you a straight answer when you start to suspect that the AI-powered auto-scaling is actually marketing fluff sprayed over a double/halve cron job that runs at the top of the hour.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by notacoward »

joe463369 wrote: post #80
notacoward wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Covers might not be fair use, but teaching is. https://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html#107

Sounds like it's a factor but not necessarily a deciding one. Also, the phrase used is "nonprofit educational purposes" so if he's got ads enabled he may be out of luck.

"Nonprofit" only appears in a non-normative portion of the statute, alongside other factors that might work in the plaintiff's favor here. Of course, Google's "shoot first and don't allow questions later" approach makes that pretty meaningless.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by mr_toad »

Symbiote wrote: post #35
ravenstine wrote: post #12

Imagine if you showed up to a self-storage facility one day and find a different lock on your unit. You go to the manager and ask what the hell is going on. > Oh, you ? Yeah, your unit was full of stolen goods, so we seized it and changed the lock. > There was nothing stolen in there! What about a bunch of banged up furniture and old cans of paint made you think it was stolen? (the manager stares blankly) > Well?! (c…

"The data protection law establishes that you have the right not to be subject to a decision based solely on automated means, if the decision produces legal effects concerning you or significantly affects you in a similar way." One of the clauses of the GDPR gives EU residents the right to appeal certain automated decisions that might affect them. https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/law-topic/data-protection/refo...

> you have the right not to be subject to a decision based solely on automated means

Sounds like traffic lights are illegal in the EU.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by avianlyric »

kllrnohj wrote: post #128
dmitriid wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They don't care, and they don't follow that policy. Even if that is "just a technical issue", no one cared enough to spend resources to fix their underlying system to reflect that policy.

DMCA notices are not issued by YouTube. I think you're confusing this with Content-ID, which is youtube's auto-algorithm thingy. That's not what happened here, though, per the video.

OP is talking is quoting a support article about manual claims, and how google require these manual claims must include a timestamp and description.

Something that is notably missing from the strikes shown in the video.

GP is saying that their system shouldn’t let copyright claimants just ignore Google’s policy. Which is clearly what’s happened here. Which just further demonstrates Google’s contempt for its creators.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by IggleSniggle »

cm2187 wrote: post #124
fwip wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What services got the axe with no warning? It seems like for all of the Google ex-products I can think of, they gave advance notice of at least a year.

A year is an eternity for a start up. But it is a really short time to a large company with complex integrations, a massive book of work and budgets being trimmed every week.

Exactly. A year is a blink of an eye for an established company.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by cltby »

shog_hn wrote: post #55
mieko wrote: post #11

As someone who has been responsible for large cloud budgets, I wonder if Google is aware that their "support strategy" toward both content creators/contractors and customers across the entire brand has completely ruled out GCP for me. GCP might have great support. They may not have automated bots suspending accounts. They might actually follow the DMCA counterclaim process instead of some weird process on top of it.…

I'm an independent consultant and have also been involved in large public and hybrid cloud budget decisions between the 3 big players. GCP will never get my backing as long as Youtube continues on it's current path. That is purely from a Google/Alphabet ethics point of view. Don't get me wrong, the other two players are not certainly not perfect either, but they're a farcry better than GCP in my opinion.

What reasons do you give your clients for preferring AWS/Azure?

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by imchillyb »

GCP is not a platform, it's a toy.

Google's products and services should be avoided by any and all corporate entities. If your business relies upon products or services in order to run, then stay the hell away from Google's Cloud Platform.

Toys are for babies. Big-boys need tools.

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