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Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by true_religion »

judge2020 wrote: post #130
austinkhale wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was involved a bidding war between GCP and AWS where each was offering a healthy six figures in free credits to move our business to their cloud. GCP was offering nearly 3x as many but ultimately I didn’t want to move to a service where there was a chance offerings were going to get the axe with no warning. Their reputation has indeed hurt them — at least in one instance.

I mean AWS does the same thing - mine crypto using credits to speedrun getting your account terminated. The only difference with GCP is that they have a reputation for this.

Crypto mining on a free trial is just unethical.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by ganoushoreilly »

busterarm wrote: post #107
osipov wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ex-GCP here. Unless you shell out at least $15,000 / mo [1] for a Technical Account Manager (TAM) you are a nobody to Google Cloud. Hence all the bots suspending accounts and scripted processes. If you are a small business, bite the bullet and use AWS. [1] https://services.google.com/fh/files/misc/enterprise-support...

We have a TAM, but it doesn't buy us much. They use their TAMs as a sales lever to get you to use all of the vendor-lock in features. They'll help you architect your platform so that it won't run anywhere else and charge you for the privilege. You can keep telling them all you want about how you operate multi-cloud and how you won't budge on that and they'll just keep trying to run higher up your flag pole. For actua…

We have a TAM as well and they've not show any value. In fact, every issue we've had we've had to escalate through non traditional means (IE personal relationships). Google absolutely does not care.

We've ultimately decided that we're moving out of Google strictly to AZURE / AWS, and ironically enough Oracle.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by jrockway »

mieko wrote: post #11

As someone who has been responsible for large cloud budgets, I wonder if Google is aware that their "support strategy" toward both content creators/contractors and customers across the entire brand has completely ruled out GCP for me. GCP might have great support. They may not have automated bots suspending accounts. They might actually follow the DMCA counterclaim process instead of some weird process on top of it.…

I think the important thing is to have a mitigation strategy. Google was very smart in how they commoditized cloud offerings by inventing Kubernetes. You can explode your manifests into GCP, you can explode your manifests into AWS, and it mostly works the same. Obviously you can really screw yourself by not having offsite backups (backup your GCP database into AWS, or vice-versa), or by using their proprietary stuff (Cloud Spanner, AWS Aurora). But if you're careful, you're in control, and the cloud provider is just a commodity that you pick based on price and nothing else. As an application developer, that's a great place to be.

(Similarly, I use Gmail for my e-mail, but I control the MX records. So if I get kicked off for whatever reason, I can be back up and running in no time.)

YouTube creators, however, do not have this luxury. People watch YouTube videos because they happened to be on YouTube and YouTube suggested the video, not because the end user was looking for your videos specifically. Social networks and video sharing sites are appealing to creators because there is the chance that The Algorithm (I hate that term) will award them with eyeballs that they can then sell to advertisers for very little effort. That is something you can't just migrate off of, because there are no competitors. You might convince your Patreon supporters to follow you, but even that is uncertain. I have watched many streamers move off of Twitch because they got a better deal from a competitor, only to watch their viewership drop to nothing until they were able to move back to Twitch. If one of these video sharing sites shuts you down, your career is over. Google kills your GCP account, you can still be a software engineer.

So my TL;DR is that cloud computing is very different from being an independent creator. Computers are a dime a dozen, and it doesn't matter which ones you use. But video sharing platforms give you a free audience, and that is something that is very hard to build yourself.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by hinkley »

jjeaff wrote: post #39
ravenstine wrote: post #12

Imagine if you showed up to a self-storage facility one day and find a different lock on your unit. You go to the manager and ask what the hell is going on. > Oh, you ? Yeah, your unit was full of stolen goods, so we seized it and changed the lock. > There was nothing stolen in there! What about a bunch of banged up furniture and old cans of paint made you think it was stolen? (the manager stares blankly) > Well?! (c…

Actually, I would modify that comparison. More like, imagine if you show up to your storage one day and the lock is changed. You talk to the manager and he says, "you can no longer have access to your items because you have broken one of the rules in our 5,000 page terms of service". "Which rule did I break?", you ask. He answers, "you can no longer have access to your items because you have broken one of the rules i…

I’m switching to T-Mobile as soon as the next phone is released because something in AT&T’s CRM is broken in such a way that they don’t remember how many times I’ve called them to fix an autopay that’s been broken since I reported my old card lost a year and a half ago. Every person I get on the phone treats me like a child who can’t fill out a support form. So they fill it out for me and no payments are ever done. This is the same card I used to manually pay in their support system, which works. If I pretend not to know when the last time was I contacted them, they can’t tell me. Escalate a ticket, no answer.

I’m afraid that whatever is broken will stop the phone number transfer from succeeding.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by nautilus12 »

busterarm wrote: post #122
martin_bech wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GCP seems like its run like a hobby project. Scary af

It's because unlike AWS and Azure, they don't actually use it.

That explains everything. Only sell what you yourself would find useful.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by ianai »

judge2020 wrote: post #130
austinkhale wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was involved a bidding war between GCP and AWS where each was offering a healthy six figures in free credits to move our business to their cloud. GCP was offering nearly 3x as many but ultimately I didn’t want to move to a service where there was a chance offerings were going to get the axe with no warning. Their reputation has indeed hurt them — at least in one instance.

I mean AWS does the same thing - mine crypto using credits to speedrun getting your account terminated. The only difference with GCP is that they have a reputation for this.

They likely meant how google axes whole products like aws with no recourse for customers. Amazon probably would not do that to a product like aws in a million years.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by izacus »

huffmsa wrote: post #111

The real question (not my own): Why hasn't youtube built any tooling for creators? Not a single editing tool, let alone a whole suite. You're expected to show up with your already polished in Adobe mp4. They could own a huge chunk of that market, yet seemingly willingly choose not to.

YouTube does have editing tooling for creators, at least it did the last time I uploaded something.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by kadoban »

mr_toad wrote: post #121
monoideism wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "bullet" in this analogy is AWS's notoriously high cost.

Notorious in what way? The price charts are all publicly available. Anyone can check for themselves what the costs are.

And yet nobody can predict what anything will actually cost. If you make your prices complicated enough, transparency doesn't mean much.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

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Post by Igelau »

osipov wrote: post #34
mieko wrote: post #11

As someone who has been responsible for large cloud budgets, I wonder if Google is aware that their "support strategy" toward both content creators/contractors and customers across the entire brand has completely ruled out GCP for me. GCP might have great support. They may not have automated bots suspending accounts. They might actually follow the DMCA counterclaim process instead of some weird process on top of it.…

Ex-GCP here. Unless you shell out at least $15,000 / mo [1] for a Technical Account Manager (TAM) you are a nobody to Google Cloud. Hence all the bots suspending accounts and scripted processes. If you are a small business, bite the bullet and use AWS. [1] https://services.google.com/fh/files/misc/enterprise-support...

> minimum $15000/month

> Minimum 12 month contract

> One TAM unit provides on average one business day’s worth of effort per week

Just to have an ear on deck about Google's issues?

It sounds like the platform is bad enough that we're in the ballpark of Bald Tony the TAM coming in with a bat and saying "nice place ya got here in this rough neighborhood... pity if something bad happened to it!"

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