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Re: Tor Browser 10

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post #49

If my adversary was a state, I'd be seriously worried that the act of downloading Tor is monitored and would put me as a potential threat.

with or without downloading Tor I say its safe to assume everyone here is already under some kind of monitoring like we're all potential customers/criminals

Re: Tor Browser 10

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post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That reputation comes from cars and machines, not from software. Germany is one of the worst places for anything digital.

That's unfortunately so true. The thorough and strongly regulated engineering results in good quality for mechanical products, but is detrimental for the fast paced software world. SSL3.0 is from 1996. That's the life cycle of 2-3 cars and much less than a building, so "not a long time ago" in engineering terms "when it still works". I joined a German engineering company and made the naive assumption that proficiency…

Having to deal with Siemens healthcare software - they take the very understandable risk aversion (some of which is a must when it comes to medical equipment) and take it so far that it seriously hampers their ability to keep up with the industry, and (ironically) to maintain a stable product. I think it's their North American software teams that keep them moving forward, otherwise they'd still to this day be selling new MR and CT scanners running Windows XP.

And we all know the problem with technical debt - it's not a problem until one day it's a huge fucking problem that paralyzes you and forces you to stop moving forward at all for some time, just so you can pay off the debt.

Re: Tor Browser 10

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post #52
post #49

If my adversary was a state, I'd be seriously worried that the act of downloading Tor is monitored and would put me as a potential threat.

with or without downloading Tor I say its safe to assume everyone here is already under some kind of monitoring like we're all potential customers/criminals

We’re all on many lists. What matters is where you rank on it.

Re: Tor Browser 10

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For users wanting to prevent their ISP from sniffing around then tor works as intended. Against advertisers it also work decently as a self cleaning browsers that constantly change its IP address. For developers and sysadmins that want to get an outside look at their own services or investigate third party websites (like fraudulent lookalike) it work pretty effective with some caveats. It also works mostly fine again…

>> It is not recommended by anyone to depend on tor against that threat model. That depends as much on the use case as the threat. Traffic analysis attacks require traffic . Short burst communication via tor (chat/email/bot control commands etc) are not traced as easily as large file downloads or random web browsing. Attacks on the client (malware) are also very hardware dependant. A target using the same Tor client…

How you figure we would heard about it? I mean the only reason we know they can break RSA 50% of the time was because of Snownden and that was like 10 years ago or so.

I mean these people are really good at keeping things secret, I remember reading books written in the late 80's that still said the first use of computers was calculating artillery tables, not codebreaking.

Re: Tor Browser 10

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Is it worth it running the Tor Browser without Tor itself if I wanted a Firefox version without Mozilla, pocket and tracking?

Yes. There is SecBrowser from Whonix which is actually a guide do to exactly that. https://www.whonix.org/wiki/SecBrowser

There's also LibreWolf, which has a flatpak/AppImage and is more up to date with the latest Firefox - https://gitlab.com/librewolf-community/browser

Re: Tor Browser 10

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post #49

If my adversary was a state, I'd be seriously worried that the act of downloading Tor is monitored and would put me as a potential threat.

There's way too much noise in this measurement for it to be seriously meaningful, unless ownership of tor was itself a crime.

Re: Tor Browser 10

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Trying to read this post with third party scripts and frames blocked you get: You are not authorized to access this page. How ironic.

I don't think this is related to script blocking or frames at all, its a long standing bug in the tor project site that anyone can trigger by just refreshing. Check other comments in this thread.
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