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Louisiana voter registration portal mysteriously shuts down on Registration Day

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Re: Louisiana voter registration portal mysteriously shuts down on Registration Day

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They really wanted people to register with that domain...

Apparently "Geaux" is the local slang for their sports teams, plus the pun with "Go vote". So it's pretty reasonable in my opinion.

It's a Cajun thing, and popular in sports from the area. Geaux means go.

Re: Louisiana voter registration portal mysteriously shuts down on Registration Day

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As an Australian who lives in the US, the vast chasm between how elections work in the two countries still boggles my mind. First, the US needs mandatory voting. This is what Australia has. The argument against this has always been about uninformed people voting and "fraud". I used to be sympathetic to this argument until I saw the massive scale of voter suppression that occurs in the US. Mandatory voting immediately…

> To anyone saying "no maintenance takes a day", I guarantee you it can. This could easily be a database server that is being replaced. It needs to be set up and the database copied over. Not everyone runs EC2 instances. In the real world deployments can be (and usually are) incredibly primitive.

How about 20 days? Apparently the site was down on the 3rd and won't be back until the 23rd, unless I read that wrong.

Re: Louisiana voter registration portal mysteriously shuts down on Registration Day

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should compare the antifa vs. fa fatality count sometime. It would put the "both sides are equally violent" hypothesis into some perspective. Or guns and ammo count.

How would you even begin the comparison? Seems like it would quickly devolve into subjective shitshow when deciding what gets included in each count.

https://www.adl.org/news/press-releases/right-wing-extremism...

It's already been researched. 50 murders vs zero in 2018, and the other years and reports have similar results.

Re: Louisiana voter registration portal mysteriously shuts down on Registration Day

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As an Australian who lives in the US, the vast chasm between how elections work in the two countries still boggles my mind. First, the US needs mandatory voting. This is what Australia has. The argument against this has always been about uninformed people voting and "fraud". I used to be sympathetic to this argument until I saw the massive scale of voter suppression that occurs in the US. Mandatory voting immediately…

In general this shows a lack of understanding of the US system of government common to folks not from here (and honestly to at least half the people who were born here). Broad national-level statements like "election supervisors are an elected position" are almost always wrong for huge swaths of the country. Not a single election judge, election helper, or poll watcher (three distinct positions with distinct roles) i…

> You simply cannot make broad sweeping changes across the country to something like an election. It's controlled by every state individually. You can even see this in mail-in balloting where some states allow it, some don't, the dates are all different, etc. This is a pain is the ass but it's by design. The US was explicitly founded to not have a strong, centralized federal government. So that makes it very difficult to make huge changes like you're talking about.

I don't think the OP is ignorant of this, or not necessarily. I think they're saying we need federal standards for national elections, which would necessitate a constitutional amendment, sure. (Among the dubious features of our constitution is its amendment mechanism.)

Re: Louisiana voter registration portal mysteriously shuts down on Registration Day

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post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In general this shows a lack of understanding of the US system of government common to folks not from here (and honestly to at least half the people who were born here). Broad national-level statements like "election supervisors are an elected position" are almost always wrong for huge swaths of the country. Not a single election judge, election helper, or poll watcher (three distinct positions with distinct roles) i…

> You simply cannot make broad sweeping changes across the country to something like an election. It's controlled by every state individually. You can even see this in mail-in balloting where some states allow it, some don't, the dates are all different, etc. This is a pain is the ass but it's by design. The US was explicitly founded to not have a strong, centralized federal government. So that makes it very difficul…

This is sort of my point. Technically it's not a national election, it's 50 state-wide elections. Each individual state's Department of State can prescribe most of the manner in which the election is handled. The electoral power starts and ends at the state level, and Constitutionally speaking, the fact that the state count is part of a national election is merely a byproduct of that.

Re: Louisiana voter registration portal mysteriously shuts down on Registration Day

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just to be clear, you are advocating removing government officials by violent means? Please explain the difference between that and domestic terrorism. To say American elections are "compromised" is both a gross exaggeration and a Dunning-Krugeresque oversimplification. Gerrymandering is absolutely a problem and needs to be dealt with. It's the primary (no pun intended) reason for the polarization of our elected offi…

You raise an interesting point: How would you differentiate revolution against a fascist government from terrorism?

mlonkibjuyhv has it exactly right, I think.

At their outset, revolutions and [domestic] terrorism are usually indistinguishable. The American Revolution was certainly viewed as terrorism by the Crown, whether they had that word for it or not. History is written by the victors, and to a certain extent the worthiness of your cause is determined decades or centuries later by whether or not you were successful.

Re: Louisiana voter registration portal mysteriously shuts down on Registration Day

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> It's probably not true that all Trump supporters want a civil war Probably ? Dude. Don’t be ridiculous. Exactly this kind of demonization of the opposing political party is causing so many problems today.

That's fair. It's definitely not true. I considered changing the words but decided to keep probably since it is after all a more accurate statement (being a weaker assertion) and partly because it's more damning of his supporters I admit.

Thanks for the thoughtful reply, cheers.

Re: Louisiana voter registration portal mysteriously shuts down on Registration Day

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While the timing of the shutdown is indeed peculiar if not outright suspicious, I wonder if the "scheduled maintenance" part had something to do with the Emergency Directive 20-04 which was released by the Department of Homeland Security on September 18. It requires all federal agencies to apply a patch to mitigate the newest Windows vulnerability CVE-2020-1472, dubbed Zerologon.

Link: https://cyber.dhs.gov/ed/20-04/

From the article:

"Update all Windows Servers with the domain controller role by 11:59 PM EDT, Monday, September 21, 2020,

Apply the August 2020 Security Update to all Windows Servers with the domain controller role. If affected domain controllers cannot be updated, ensure they are removed from the network."

Re: Louisiana voter registration portal mysteriously shuts down on Registration Day

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America has corrupt elections. From Gerrymandering, Voter Database purges, Voter Suppression through closing polling places, making it hard or impossible to vote by mail. All of it is intentional. And it won't change because those who are elected are the ones that set the rules.

It can absolutely change if those who are elected are physically removed from their rule-setting positions by the disenfranchised. Historically, you can’t cure fascism by voting, even in situations where the elections haven’t been compromised.

> Historically, you can’t cure fascism by voting, even in situations where the elections haven’t been compromised.

Could you show/explain what kind of data do we have on this? How sure are we of this result?

Re: Louisiana voter registration portal mysteriously shuts down on Registration Day

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post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> if those who are elected are physically removed from their rule-setting positions > you can’t cure fascism by voting Perhaps advocating was the wrong word but I only see one way to interpret those two statements side-by-side.

You are building a strawman, the observation from OP in no way condones any violent attitude. It is a historical fact that authoritarianism in general (monarchies, despots and so on) has only been brought down through violence, the comment you are replying does not advocate or imply that, you are the one reading that. Malice is in the eye of the beholder.

I'm not building a strawman (at least not intentionally!), and I don't mean to imply malice. Believing in violent overthrow of a tyrannical government is a perfectly logical belief, albeit one that will get you in trouble with said government. For most people, there is a point at which they would take up arms against their own government. That in and of itself isn't a bad thing.

Is there any other way to take the comment in question?

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