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The Era of Visual Studio Code

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Post by city41 »

willbw wrote: post #198

I find this post along with the comments in "A Picture of Java in 2020" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24551390 to be incongruous with my experience as a professional developer. My first couple of years writing software I used Vim, then VSCode, then worked in a Java shop and was forced to use IntelliJ. I didn't like it at first, but now after a couple of years I cannot see how I lived without it. The idea that…

I agree that JetBrains products tend to go unnoticed. But them bring commercial versus vscode being free makes it hard for people to choose them.

I recently bought a personal license for Webstorm and really like it.

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Post by paul_f »

I find it interesting there is no mention of the new Adobe Brackets here. I've been using Panic Coda for years and will be transitioning to either Panic Nova or to Brackets.

Fully open source, written in HTML and Javascript. It was released in April of 2020.

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Post by vips7L »

keithnz wrote: post #488
nitemice wrote: post #404

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As someone who uses all three of the editors you named, I think that each serves a pretty different purpose in practice. Each aspires to be the be-all, end-all editor/IDE, but that's just unrealistic to me. For me, I use VIM all day, every day at work (C++), because while it doesn't have the full IDE experience out of the box, it's close enough, and can be brought much closer with various plugins and knowledgeable ad…

I find CLion really nice for writing C++ + Jetbrains Vim bindings are pretty good

IdeaVim always seems extremely buggy to me compared to what I'm used to in vscode-vim

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Post by chipsa »

zelphirkalt wrote: post #465
ezluckyfree wrote: post #109

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Note that this feature doesn't work in open source builds of VSCode, it's an MS only thing.

I am no VS Code user, but if this is true, we are at phase 2 of EEE. What will be next?

Can't be at phase 2, because VS Code was written by MS.

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Post by paulryanrogers »

atilaneves wrote: post #603
paulryanrogers wrote: post #311

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Keyboard conventions do come and go but muscle memory is expensive to reprogram. Your hands are also irreplaceable. So I go for the most efficient that's not too radically unfamiliar or painful. And honestly one could spend a career learning every editor/IDE in depth without ever accomplishing anything else. Embedded is especially bad as one often must use the IDE integrated into the platform's SDK.

I think you missed the point where they mentioned you can change any and all keybindings in Emacs.

Right but that requires learning Emacs well enough to change bindings. Then all the other tweaks one makes to a tool like text expansions, macros, and learning differences in find-replace, refactoring, and autocomplete.

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Post by ta988 »

brabel wrote: post #462
xmprt wrote: post #366

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I've used both VSC and IntelliJ and I understand where you're coming from but when the parent comments says VSC is fast they really mean it. It's almost instantaneous and I can get a lot done in VSC even without all the complex smart functionality.

I use both VSC And IntelliJ. Searching symbols/usages/implementations in large projects is far faster in IntelliJ in my experience, not to mention it's much more accurate too but that's probably due to the language (Java/Kotlin in IntelliJ, Go/JS in VSC). It's really annoying when I have to wait seconds to find implementations of a Go interface in VSC as I am used to IntelliJ's instantaneous searches. I think you mea…

In my experience (on Linux), intelliJ reacts immediatly when I type, vscode always has that little delay that always make it feel weird to me.

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Post by avremel »

ezluckyfree wrote: post #109
frankjr wrote: post #52

I completely switched to VS Code once I discovered the remote development feature [0]. It allows you to run VS Code locally but work on a project in a different environment (via SSH, Docker, WSL). The integration is seamless - search, debugger, terminal, extensions - everything looks and behaves as if it was running locally but is delegated to the configured remote. You can even have different remotes opened at the s…

Note that this feature doesn't work in open source builds of VSCode, it's an MS only thing.

I use this feature in VSCode (free version), with this Microsoft extension: https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=ms-vscod...

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Post by Kwpolska »

btown wrote: post #270
varispeed wrote: post #228

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From my experience out of the box you get poor performance and you have to spend a lot of time figuring out how to change configuration to improve it as knowledge is scattered in many places and not always up to date. Then it still likes to stall from time to time or sometimes doesn't register key presses properly. It's a poor user experience, but even worse is that alternatives are often worse. I wish there was an e…

I see them as complementary. VS Code shines if you’re jumping between independent codebases for distinct projects, and startup time matters. But my startup monorepo I keep loaded in IntelliJ for days at a time and have never looked back. For the 1% of time it’s laggy due to a JVM GC or background indexing, the other 99% of the time it’s immensely productive to have e.g. full-stack debug breakpoints that Just Work, we…

You can have multiple project windows open in IntelliJ, and opening a project from an already-running instance takes only a few seconds, so I don’t think that’s really relevant.

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willbw wrote: post #198

I find this post along with the comments in "A Picture of Java in 2020" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24551390 to be incongruous with my experience as a professional developer. My first couple of years writing software I used Vim, then VSCode, then worked in a Java shop and was forced to use IntelliJ. I didn't like it at first, but now after a couple of years I cannot see how I lived without it. The idea that…

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Re: The Era of Visual Studio Code

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Post by pmuens »

What I would love to see is a JetBrains code editor which is language-independent. VSCode is nice but it's still too sluggish. Sublime Text is what I really enjoyed back in the day but a lot of core extensions / plugins are stale.

Yes, I can configure IntelliJ to work with other languages but at the end of the day it's still a Java IDE.

I tried Nova from Panic the other day but it felt similar to VSCode in terms of snappiness.

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