Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's been broadly discussed elsewhere in this thread already. And no, he wasn't fired.
He was asked to resign by Mitchell Baker at which point he presented a resignation letter. That is an involuntary termination, which for everybody outside the "C" suite is being fired.
Firefox usage is down despite Mozilla's top exec pay going up
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Re: Firefox usage is down despite Mozilla's top exec pay going up
#502Hey Microsoft, i have a Idea: Buy Mozilla, fire all the CEO/Staff, bring all the lost Devs back and let them work on the Browser and Rust (and just that), if anything happens with the Chromium development you have your own second browser at hand...and by that way rust itself.
I was thinking the same, but for Amazon. They don't have a browser yet (extremely interesting data), directly compete with google on ads (and search when we consider shopping) and are increasingly using Rust. Getting great engineering talent on top is nice, too.
Hmm nice idea with Amazon...or Linaro OR IBM/Redhat OR SUSE..
Re: Firefox usage is down despite Mozilla's top exec pay going up
#503Hey Microsoft, i have a Idea: Buy Mozilla, fire all the CEO/Staff, bring all the lost Devs back and let them work on the Browser and Rust (and just that), if anything happens with the Chromium development you have your own second browser at hand...and by that way rust itself.
I feel like the antitrust case of 2001 probably has them shying away from acquiring Mozilla, given that Mozilla née Netscape was one of the major bringers of the complaints.
Re: Firefox usage is down despite Mozilla's top exec pay going up
#504The article makes me sad, but I am also sad to see time/work being wasted for needless UI updates.
Re: Firefox usage is down despite Mozilla's top exec pay going up
#505Usage is actually pretty flat, its just the market size expanding greatly: https://data.firefox.com/dashboard/user-activity As a firefox user, thats not great news, but it's different from current users leaving en masse.
But if Firefox stays its course and doesn't gain new users, it'll be done for when the next hot browser comes along or current users have enough of what's happening behind the scenes.
Re: Firefox usage is down despite Mozilla's top exec pay going up
#506> Mobile browsing numbers are bleak: Firefox barely exists on phones, with a market share of less than half a percent. This is baffling given that mobile Firefox has a rare feature for a mobile browser: it's able to install extensions and so can block ads. This is true, and indeed very strange. I use FF on mobile and it works perfectly. So Mozilla's problems aren't only technical, there's also a question of market aw…
> I use FF on mobile and it works perfectly. Not anymore! To be consistent with their business screw ups, they addressed this with the latest updates. Now the mobile app a mess like the rest of Mozilla.
I also really like the new swipe-url-to-switch-tabs feature =D
Re: Firefox usage is down despite Mozilla's top exec pay going up
#507So I think we can all agree that Mozilla's path to success is not obvious and running it is strategically harder than running most companies. You have to find a way to make your free product compete with Google / Microsoft without compromising your core values and also paying your bills. I am not defending this CEO's pay but I am just curious: how much do people on HN think the CEO of Mozilla should be paid? It's got…
> It's got to be enough to attract someone with extensive management experience at a high-functioning tech company so to me the absolute floor would be like $500k unless the person is retired and doing it for fun/charity. > Or do people not think they need a particularly qualified CEO and would be fine with a more democratic governance model? This line of logic is so prevalent in the world, and isn't evidence-based.…
How?
Who?
Would you find someone who hasn't previously run a large, innovative tech org? How would you determine that they'd be good at this job? (Remember, switching costs for CEOs is high).
Re: Firefox usage is down despite Mozilla's top exec pay going up
#508I'd pay hansomely for Firefox but only if the funds go into development, not into fat cats wallets. I'd also pay to remove junk like Pocket, or rather I'd consider paying for Pocket as a separate service. It irks me that it's forced into my browser. I want to be free of Google. This includes Chromium which has too much of Google included. Mozilla is the last hope of a free (as in speech) internet. On iOS Apple have e…
> I'd pay hansomely for Firefox but only if the funds go into development, not into fat cats wallets. Donations go to the Mozilla Foundation, not the Mozilla Corporation. Both the overpaid leadership, and Firefox development, are the domain of the Mozilla Corporation. Relevant discussion from a month ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24200395 , https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24142097
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#509Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thanks for the link, wasn't aware of the details. While I 100% disagree with him on marriage equality I don't understand why he was driven from his role that has nothing to do with Proposition 8. Why did his freedom to support a cause with his own money result in him having to resign, seems anti-democratic to me.
I don't know, man. It's easy to get all abstract with phrases like "support a cause" but we live in a concrete world. Mozilla employs a lot of gay people. Prop 8 was viciously homophobic, both in concept and especially in execution of its campaign. How would you feel going to work knowing your boss's boss thinks you don't deserve rights?
Re: Firefox usage is down despite Mozilla's top exec pay going up
#510Turns out about two days ago I moved the Chrome icon back to my Android home screen. The latest Firefox Android version (80.1.3) had a catastrophic UI facelift. The top bar moved to the bottom. The colors are ugly. And there is a race condition between the address/search bar and your finger: suggested items appears at the top of the list with a timing such that it is very likely you hit them instead of the recently v…
There's an option to restore its rightful position at the top.