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A look at /e/OS on the FairPhone 3 – a FOSS OS for phones [video]

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Re: A look at /e/OS on the FairPhone 3 – a FOSS OS for phones [video]

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Post by commoner »

ForHackernews wrote: post #15

/e/ is a great idea, but it really leaves a sour taste in my mouth how the /e/ foundation hides the contributions of the free software projects they rely on. https://microg.org/ is the core that makes it possible to create the /e/ distribution, but good luck finding that in any of /e/'s promotional material.

In July, /e/ said that they were funding the MicroG developer. The blog on their website appears to be down, but here is a copy of their press release:

https://oldwww.e.foundation/e-foundation-announces-official-...

MicroG also accepts donations through Liberapay and GitHub Sponsors, if you want to contribute directly:

https://liberapay.com/microG/

https://github.com/sponsors/mar-v-in

Re: A look at /e/OS on the FairPhone 3 – a FOSS OS for phones [video]

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Post by em-bee »

xorcist wrote: post #28

The e.foundation home page caters to users without any technical knowledge, which is great but I'm not sure users of alternative mobile operating systems are quite there yet. It's not even immediately obvious this is Android-based. It would be useful to list some more specifics. Is this built on LineageOS? Does it come with their own cloud services? Can you opt out of that? How close do you track LineageOS? The video…

yes, it's based on lineage.

for apps that need google, microG is avaiable, and aparently does the job. (i don't use apps that need google, so i don't even have microG activated)

Re: A look at /e/OS on the FairPhone 3 – a FOSS OS for phones [video]

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Post by em-bee »

m3adow wrote: post #23
ForHackernews wrote: post #15

/e/ is a great idea, but it really leaves a sour taste in my mouth how the /e/ foundation hides the contributions of the free software projects they rely on. https://microg.org/ is the core that makes it possible to create the /e/ distribution, but good luck finding that in any of /e/'s promotional material.

References to LineageOS (which /e/ is a fork of) and microG can be found on their "Getting Started" page [1]. I wouldn't call that "hiding". Also, don't they fund microG development since a couple of weeks? I too am critical towards /e/ because I think that they have done very little own work for now. But hiding their reliance on other OSS projects isn't something I'd call them out for. [1]: https://e.foundation/get-…

for what little work they did, they created a much more polished experience compared to lineageOS. i have been using both, and the difference is noticeable.

that and effectively auditing the android for google dependencies and privacy violations, i think are already a quite substantial contribution.

it is also worth considering how many resources it took to achieve that, so i think it's unfair to say they didn't do much as if anyone with a few weekends to spare could have achieved the same.

Re: A look at /e/OS on the FairPhone 3 – a FOSS OS for phones [video]

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Post by Vinnl »

amenod wrote: post #3

Off topic: how is one supposed to search for "/e/"? Is there some alternative spelling? On topic: I like that /e/ foundation is selling new and refurbished phones with the OS installed. It (hopefully) gives them some income and it helps get this OS in hands of users who would rather not tempt the goddess of bricks.

I think they use e_mydata at some places [1].

[1] https://mastodon.social/@e_mydata

Re: A look at /e/OS on the FairPhone 3 – a FOSS OS for phones [video]

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Post by Fnoord »

xorcist wrote: post #29
amenod wrote: post #3

Off topic: how is one supposed to search for "/e/"? Is there some alternative spelling? On topic: I like that /e/ foundation is selling new and refurbished phones with the OS installed. It (hopefully) gives them some income and it helps get this OS in hands of users who would rather not tempt the goddess of bricks.

Is this in any way related to Enlightenment which also styled the "e" similarly?

No.

/e/ is a project started by Gaël Duval, founder of Mandrake Linux (nowadays known as Mandriva).

See [1] [2] [3]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//e/_(operating_system)

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ga%C3%ABl_Duval

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlightenment_(software)

Re: A look at /e/OS on the FairPhone 3 – a FOSS OS for phones [video]

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Post by Fnoord »

xorcist wrote: post #28

The e.foundation home page caters to users without any technical knowledge, which is great but I'm not sure users of alternative mobile operating systems are quite there yet. It's not even immediately obvious this is Android-based. It would be useful to list some more specifics. Is this built on LineageOS? Does it come with their own cloud services? Can you opt out of that? How close do you track LineageOS? The video…

Using Play Store via microG in /e/ is akin to using non-free in Debian. The philosophy of the OS recommends against it. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. You can though.

Re: A look at /e/OS on the FairPhone 3 – a FOSS OS for phones [video]

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Post by ForHackernews »

commoner wrote: post #31
ForHackernews wrote: post #15

/e/ is a great idea, but it really leaves a sour taste in my mouth how the /e/ foundation hides the contributions of the free software projects they rely on. https://microg.org/ is the core that makes it possible to create the /e/ distribution, but good luck finding that in any of /e/'s promotional material.

In July, /e/ said that they were funding the MicroG developer. The blog on their website appears to be down, but here is a copy of their press release: https://oldwww.e.foundation/e-foundation-announces-official-... MicroG also accepts donations through Liberapay and GitHub Sponsors, if you want to contribute directly: https://liberapay.com/microG/ https://github.com/sponsors/mar-v-in

I guess better late than never, but after 2+ years of people complaining about this they announce it on 'oldwww'?

Weak sauce, if you ask me. But you're right, they do mention it.

Re: A look at /e/OS on the FairPhone 3 – a FOSS OS for phones [video]

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Post by help568832 »

Anyone outside Europe can buy the Fairphone 3+ from Clove UK [1]. They have 25 yrs experience shipping phones. The official fairphone store ships only inside europe.

But first check FP3/FP3+ Network specifications below to see whether the 4G LTE bands of your carrier are supported:

In case you need it for your specific situation, the network specifications for the FP3/FP3+:

    Configuration Dual-SIM, Dual-Standby (DSDS)
    SIM Sockets 2 x Nano-SIM (4FF)
    Network Technology 2G / 3G / 4G LTE - Advanced 
    GSM/GPRS/EDGE Quad-band: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz 
    UMTS: Band 1 (2100 MHz); Band 2 (900 MHz); Band 5 (850MHz); Band 8 (900 MHz)
    3G Max Downlink Speed - 42 Mbps
    3G Max Uplink - 11 Mbps
    4G / LTE Advanced Band 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 7 / 13 / 20 / 26
    4G Max Downlink Speed - 300 Mbps
    4G Max Uplink Speed - 75 Mbps
Source: https://support.fairphone.com/hc/en-us/articles/360047326452

[1] https://www.clove.co.uk/collections/smartphones/products/fai...

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