A look at /e/OS on the FairPhone 3 – a FOSS OS for phones [video]
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Re: A look at /e/OS on the FairPhone 3 – a FOSS OS for phones [video]
#2I wonder if it implements Accessibility APIs and a screen reader. It took Google years to catch up to what VoiceOver on iOS can do. I hope FOSS does not forget about this topic on phones.
My phone has become the most ubiquitous assistive technology in my life.
Checking public transport arrival times. reading labels on canned food. using tools like Be My Eyes to solve everything for which there is no deep learning application yet. All these things would be impossible without a good Accessibility API and screen reader.
And before you ask, no, voice enabling a select few applications is not the solution. This is what Android tried in the first years. It was horrible and pretty laughable at the same time.
Re: A look at /e/OS on the FairPhone 3 – a FOSS OS for phones [video]
#3Off topic: how is one supposed to search for "/e/"? Is there some alternative spelling?
On topic: I like that /e/ foundation is selling new and refurbished phones with the OS installed. It (hopefully) gives them some income and it helps get this OS in hands of users who would rather not tempt the goddess of bricks.
Re: A look at /e/OS on the FairPhone 3 – a FOSS OS for phones [video]
#4I wonder if it implements Accessibility APIs and a screen reader. It took Google years to catch up to what VoiceOver on iOS can do. I hope FOSS does not forget about this topic on phones. My phone has become the most ubiquitous assistive technology in my life. Checking public transport arrival times. reading labels on canned food. using tools like Be My Eyes to solve everything for which there is no deep learning app…
I wish that FOSS could serve this, but as you said, it took Google, a billion dollar company, a long time to get it right.
/e/OS has about 40 team members mentioned on their website, including regular contributors - so its not 40 full-time employees.
I think the best chance to get something going in this field is to try to get public funding for a research project around something like universal accessibility or some such.
Re: A look at /e/OS on the FairPhone 3 – a FOSS OS for phones [video]
#5From the page:
It consists of:
an installable mobile operating system for smartphones, which is forked from Android and strongly “ungoogled”
a set of sorted and improved default open source applications
various online services that are linked to the mobile operating system, such as: a meta search engine for the web, drive (with synchronization), mail, calendar, notes, tasks.
Re: A look at /e/OS on the FairPhone 3 – a FOSS OS for phones [video]
#6I wonder if it implements Accessibility APIs and a screen reader. It took Google years to catch up to what VoiceOver on iOS can do. I hope FOSS does not forget about this topic on phones. My phone has become the most ubiquitous assistive technology in my life. Checking public transport arrival times. reading labels on canned food. using tools like Be My Eyes to solve everything for which there is no deep learning app…
I wish that FOSS could serve this, but as you said, it took Google, a billion dollar company, a long time to get it right. /e/OS has about 40 team members mentioned on their website, including regular contributors - so its not 40 full-time employees. I think the best chance to get something going in this field is to try to get public funding for a research project around something like universal accessibility or some…
If FOSS can not cater to people with special needs per definition, as you seem to imply, I will have to stop advocating it altogether.
If advocating for FOSS means supporting a movement that is not willing to bridge the gap and fight against digital divide, we need to stop doing so.
Technology is the best chance for people with disabilities to catch up in our society. If we take that aware from them, we are not doing any good.
Re: A look at /e/OS on the FairPhone 3 – a FOSS OS for phones [video]
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wish that FOSS could serve this, but as you said, it took Google, a billion dollar company, a long time to get it right. /e/OS has about 40 team members mentioned on their website, including regular contributors - so its not 40 full-time employees. I think the best chance to get something going in this field is to try to get public funding for a research project around something like universal accessibility or some…
If FOSS can not cater to people with special needs per definition, as you seem to imply, I will have to stop advocating it altogether. If advocating for FOSS means supporting a movement that is not willing to bridge the gap and fight against digital divide, we need to stop doing so. Technology is the best chance for people with disabilities to catch up in our society. If we take that aware from them, we are not doing…
By supporting it, do you mean that you donate? Or do you mean that you just talk about it? It takes a lot of money to develop hard features like this.
Re: A look at /e/OS on the FairPhone 3 – a FOSS OS for phones [video]
#8Off topic: how is one supposed to search for "/e/"? Is there some alternative spelling? On topic: I like that /e/ foundation is selling new and refurbished phones with the OS installed. It (hopefully) gives them some income and it helps get this OS in hands of users who would rather not tempt the goddess of bricks.
Slash-E? How authors themselves do it?
Re: A look at /e/OS on the FairPhone 3 – a FOSS OS for phones [video]
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wish that FOSS could serve this, but as you said, it took Google, a billion dollar company, a long time to get it right. /e/OS has about 40 team members mentioned on their website, including regular contributors - so its not 40 full-time employees. I think the best chance to get something going in this field is to try to get public funding for a research project around something like universal accessibility or some…
If FOSS can not cater to people with special needs per definition, as you seem to imply, I will have to stop advocating it altogether. If advocating for FOSS means supporting a movement that is not willing to bridge the gap and fight against digital divide, we need to stop doing so. Technology is the best chance for people with disabilities to catch up in our society. If we take that aware from them, we are not doing…
FOSS is not a company with a big budget and a CEO. It's a philosophy and a community built around the radical idea that user freedoms matter. If you want something particular to exist, then perhaps you should start building it or donating to those who are. No matter how nice or important it is, someone needs to build it and development requires more than just wishing — it requires money and time.
Re: A look at /e/OS on the FairPhone 3 – a FOSS OS for phones [video]
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wish that FOSS could serve this, but as you said, it took Google, a billion dollar company, a long time to get it right. /e/OS has about 40 team members mentioned on their website, including regular contributors - so its not 40 full-time employees. I think the best chance to get something going in this field is to try to get public funding for a research project around something like universal accessibility or some…
If FOSS can not cater to people with special needs per definition, as you seem to imply, I will have to stop advocating it altogether. If advocating for FOSS means supporting a movement that is not willing to bridge the gap and fight against digital divide, we need to stop doing so. Technology is the best chance for people with disabilities to catch up in our society. If we take that aware from them, we are not doing…
If a lot of people like you stop supporting it because it lacks accessibility, it might not become big enough to have the resources to implement accessibility.
Chicken and egg thing.