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Re: Tables: Tracking work for teams

#321

Meta-comment: it's hilarious how every other comment is about how Google is going to kill this project. Next time a VC asks you "what are you going to do if Google builds X too?" send them a link to this discussion!

“what are you going to do if Google builds X too?”

“Wait.”

Re: Tables: Tracking work for teams

#323

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I think we are crawling towards a future of low/no-code Friendly reminder that low/no-code is just newspeak for "COTS"

Other than the major ERP/CRMs there was very little COTS that was as extensible and programmable as these low-code solutions. I think low-code term may have some mileage as its easier to say than "extensible like an ERP, but without the ERP".

You're thinking of things in terms of how they function rather than the value they provide - from a business value perspective COTS and low-code are identical, its just that low-code used to be GUI desktop apps, now they're GUI web apps.

Re: Tables: Tracking work for teams

#324

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google Maps was a 20% eons ago, wasn't it? So there is a chance that it becomes part of Google's corporate goals, e.g. making G Suite essential to businesses.

Why hasn't Google taken G suite seriously already? The only gem is Gmail. The rest feels like toys (i.e. 20% projects).

I've used G Suite exclusively for something like 7-8 years now. The core products (Docs, Sheets, Slides) are rock solid and well integrated, and I've never found myself missing a feature. The drawing tool (what is it even called? Draw? Drawings?) is a bit of a toy, but there are plenty of alternatives.

Re: Tables: Tracking work for teams

#325

$10 a month! This does look really useful, and seems like a smart move: I like AirTable, but if they integrate this into gsuite then I'm way more likely to use it for random things. Interesting to see it being paid though! The free tier seems very limited for a google product: 1000 rows, 100 tables, 50 bot actions... paid version is $10 a month. 1000 rows won't be enough for anything serious - so they must be really…

Hey there! I'm the Tables PM and your comment caught my eye. I really appreciate that feedback for us, and we're really hoping to make it as useful as possible for you and others! :) As prlambert@ mentioned in another comment, we're kinda like a startup and if things go well, the goal is graduate into larger parts of Google. A point of clarification on the free tier: we're offering 1000 rows per table --an individual…

Could you enable it for Mexico? Don't see the point in limiting the product. I need something just like this.

Re: Tables: Tracking work for teams

#326

$10 a month! This does look really useful, and seems like a smart move: I like AirTable, but if they integrate this into gsuite then I'm way more likely to use it for random things. Interesting to see it being paid though! The free tier seems very limited for a google product: 1000 rows, 100 tables, 50 bot actions... paid version is $10 a month. 1000 rows won't be enough for anything serious - so they must be really…

Hey there! I'm the Tables PM and your comment caught my eye. I really appreciate that feedback for us, and we're really hoping to make it as useful as possible for you and others! :) As prlambert@ mentioned in another comment, we're kinda like a startup and if things go well, the goal is graduate into larger parts of Google. A point of clarification on the free tier: we're offering 1000 rows per table --an individual…

Cool. I would migrate my personal bookmarks to Table, and you how it can grow through the time, actually I have 6k records. Another real use case is tracking compliance recommendations for simple teams operating in 300 locations around the world, I would assign 200 tasks per office that staff must follow up each 6 months for 4 periods, just need to use a couple of process flow triggers in order to make it operative. To me this kind of tools like Table, Airtable, MS Lists, are way more than project management, may fit any low-no-code mvp where you just need to crud, use fast filters, identify records visually easy, automate approval mechanism and archive records when completed for future audits. IMO there are more hacker user cases where you just need to store gathered/enritched information that you want to access human friendly (even from an app) without having to build a frontend client, 100k free records would be acceptable if Google decides to go very generous with the ordinary Maker, anyways how much cost store 1000 records? This is something you can measure in money at Google?

Congrats, I hope this product comes to life and be the next must-have tool, I think they will be super cheap in the future anyways because lack of unfair advantage, it's a platform that just need to be ready to be integrable with all existing apis and that have the ability to execute lambdas. But has to be secured otherwise not recommended to be used with sensitive info, I would trust in Google since I use Gmail for my personal things.

I wouldn't surprise when Soho comes with something similar.

Re: Tables: Tracking work for teams

#327

As a product, this looks super-cool. However, I've got to be honest: while I'd play around with it while it's part of Area 120, there's no way I'd use it in a business until it officially became part of G Suite, as a core service . If Keep and Tasks are core services, then this needs to be too. That becomes a guarantee that it'll stick around basically forever. So it's very exciting to see Google launch something lik…

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Re: Tables: Tracking work for teams

#328

As a product, this looks super-cool. However, I've got to be honest: while I'd play around with it while it's part of Area 120, there's no way I'd use it in a business until it officially became part of G Suite, as a core service . If Keep and Tasks are core services, then this needs to be too. That becomes a guarantee that it'll stick around basically forever. So it's very exciting to see Google launch something lik…

Google's internal politics and business goals are well aligned for their employees.

Adsense/Adwords spews tens of billions of dollars in profits every year. Google's political economy incentivizes groups to build new products not for their revenue streams but to claim larger bonuses of the ad-revenue pie. The users who buy into these "new" products are just cannon fodder in that game. Remember Google+? Vic Gundotra made off with probably tens of millions or more to launch a failed product.

Almost anything MSFT releases in response to Google or competitors is inferior but MSFT's products are preferable due to implied longevity. MSFT has inoculated themselves against this parasitic political economy while Google and its users are held hostage by it.

Re: Tables: Tracking work for teams

#329
I tried this out, and it reminds me a lot of AirTable. But that's not necessarily a bad thing. The easy import from Google Sheets made trying it to out in something that would be a meaningful context pretty painless. Here's the deal though: I can't see myself investing my time/energy in using this seriously if it's not part of GSuite. I don't see my company paying this pricing for this, and I don't see this as having the longevity enough to integrate into business processes unless it's part of GSuite.

What I see so far seems decent, but to make this something I'm actually going to rely on and build on, it needs better placement in Google's portfolio.

Re: Tables: Tracking work for teams

#330

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. Until it's part of the suite it doesn't have Google's full backing and no guarantee that they won't kill it. I use Keep to share lists with my spouse but even that I don't put anything important into because it could go away as quickly as it showed up.

You don't need to worry about Keep. It's part of G Suite core services, which means corporations have long-term contracts with Google that basically guarantees it stays around. Not to mention that Keep is deeply integrated with Gmail, Cal, Docs, etc. No matter how lightweight of a tool it may seem, Keep isn't going away. G Suite is very conservative and careful with changes they make around their core services.

"Conservative" is one way to say it. Perhaps another way to view it is that development of some G Suite core apps has stopped [0], which should perhaps give one pause.

[0] https://support.google.com/docs/answer/9228272?hl=en

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