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Re: Tables: Tracking work for teams

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Post by cflewis »

lowiqengineer wrote: post #259
what_ever wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see any condescending language in that comment. But with my disclosure, you will be quick to say, of course I can't. Not sure where the "elite" or "450k/year" is coming from as well in the parent comment. Perhaps give that comment another chance to see what they are actually saying? Disc: Googler.

PHD graduate after a few years will easily make $450k. I’m sure OP does. Unlike me, he has absurd wealth. I’m lucky if I hit $200k after 3 years tenure at Amazon.

Can confirm that I don’t.

Re: Tables: Tracking work for teams

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Post by solresol »

hobofan wrote: post #239
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"At Area 120, we work on 20% projects 100% of the time." It literally just has no backing by Google's corporate or business goals.

Google Maps was a 20% eons ago, wasn't it? So there is a chance that it becomes part of Google's corporate goals, e.g. making G Suite essential to businesses.

No, it started as a purchase of where2 and has had full time staff ever since google bought it.

Re: Tables: Tracking work for teams

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Post by solresol »

crazygringo wrote: post #193

As a product, this looks super-cool. However, I've got to be honest: while I'd play around with it while it's part of Area 120, there's no way I'd use it in a business until it officially became part of G Suite, as a core service . If Keep and Tasks are core services, then this needs to be too. That becomes a guarantee that it'll stick around basically forever. So it's very exciting to see Google launch something lik…

Fusiontables was part of G Suite until it was terminated.

Re: Tables: Tracking work for teams

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Post by lowiqengineer »

cflewis wrote: post #281
lowiqengineer wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

PHD graduate after a few years will easily make $450k. I’m sure OP does. Unlike me, he has absurd wealth. I’m lucky if I hit $200k after 3 years tenure at Amazon.

Can confirm that I don’t.

Well, nonetheless, the amount of privilege you wield is astronomical compared to me, and it's clear that you believe you're superior to me in every way. Unfortunately, you're probably right because I can't pass a top-tier tech interview.

Re: Tables: Tracking work for teams

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Post by hobofan »

solresol wrote: post #282
hobofan wrote: post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google Maps was a 20% eons ago, wasn't it? So there is a chance that it becomes part of Google's corporate goals, e.g. making G Suite essential to businesses.

No, it started as a purchase of where2 and has had full time staff ever since google bought it.

Sorry, after looking it up, I think I confused it with GMail.

Re: Tables: Tracking work for teams

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Post by DoctorOW »

benatkin wrote: post #257
crazygringo wrote: post #193

As a product, this looks super-cool. However, I've got to be honest: while I'd play around with it while it's part of Area 120, there's no way I'd use it in a business until it officially became part of G Suite, as a core service . If Keep and Tasks are core services, then this needs to be too. That becomes a guarantee that it'll stick around basically forever. So it's very exciting to see Google launch something lik…

That isn't a guarantee. Google killed Inbox. They also regularly kill features, like community captions on YouTube. https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/31/21349401/youtube-communit... Also Reader and FeedBurner felt much like core services during their heyday.

IIRC Inbox, Reader, and Feedburner were never core products of GSuite. Just consumer products that were popular and/or well-liked. That's different from being a core part of the GSuite applications: https://gsuite.google.com/intl/en_us/features/ .

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Post by mav3rick »

baskire wrote: post #44
throwaways885 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Area 120 is definitely not a bunch of random people coming together. The projects there are fully funded and do have corporate backing. They launch separate from the rest of Google, with the positive end result being absorbed by another team into a fully supported product.

Name one project that’s lived long term that came out of a120? By lived I do mean no changes to end user for the absorption into another team.

Grasshopper

Re: Tables: Tracking work for teams

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Post by sixdimensional »

bachmeier wrote: post #273
sixdimensional wrote: post #263

Just to be fair, Microsoft also recently re-launched a tuned-up version of Sharepoint Lists, now just called "Lists" [1] which is in the same space. It took something like AirTable to wake the sleeping giants, that people wanted a low-code tabular data editor and storage engine, that wasn't really a spreadsheet. You know.. like FileMaker or MS Access. I guess this goes to show something - I have thought for many, man…

> It took something like AirTable to wake the sleeping giants My employer gives me Lists as part of Office 365. It's one of those things that sounds good as long as you're reading about it and not using it. It's just not a competitor to AirTable. Not that I use AT either, because I'm not going to pay that much for what I'd use it, but Lists is pretty bad. The look and feel makes me think Lists is a Perl CGI app from…

LOL. Well, Microsoft's "Lists" are Sharepoint Lists underneath. Sharepoint Lists are pretty old, so your comment about Perl/CGI.. well, you're not far off!

I have it too at my workplace, and other than a coat of paint on Sharepoint Lists, I concur, it is not amazing.

I guess I brought it up because it shows Microsoft being driven to do something, but much like Google, falling short of the target. Still, before AirTable and similar things, the giants were generally ignoring this area.

Re: Tables: Tracking work for teams

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Post by timmg »

generatorguy wrote: post #258
timmg wrote: post #91

I'm the Tables TL. I'd be happy to answer questions!

What are your thoughts on the fact that 90% of the comments here are something to the effect of “there is no sense in personally investing in using Tables since google will shut it down in x years”?

I never expected that kind of response from HN ;)

Just kidding. I do think it's a very fair concern for people to have. Google has that reputation. But honestly, many things on HN are from startups that may go away. And it isn't just Google. I was a huge fan of Apple's Aperture, for example, and they let that die on the vine.

For us, we think there is a real need for this kind of product. And we hope the one we built works well for our users. The team is really invested in the product. We plan to do all we can to make it successful.

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