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Re: Tables: Tracking work for teams

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"We exist only to design and launch products, which earns us huge bonuses, and not to actually maintain or improve them, which earns us nothing."

How is that different from the rest of Google?

Honesty and self-awareness?

Re: Tables: Tracking work for teams

#262

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"We exist only to design and launch products, which earns us huge bonuses, and not to actually maintain or improve them, which earns us nothing."

How is that different from the rest of Google?

Risking comments that HN is becoming reddit:

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Re: Tables: Tracking work for teams

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Just to be fair, Microsoft also recently re-launched a tuned-up version of Sharepoint Lists, now just called "Lists" [1] which is in the same space.

It took something like AirTable to wake the sleeping giants, that people wanted a low-code tabular data editor and storage engine, that wasn't really a spreadsheet. You know.. like FileMaker or MS Access.

I guess this goes to show something - I have thought for many, many, many years of building such an application in the cloud (having built "application generator" type applications in the past) - but, it may not have mattered if I had - because the big players might just come in and clone/copy it. It will be interesting to see how companies like AirTable can compete (and really hope they can).

I think we are crawling towards a future of low/no-code - or the dream of the world of 4GL [2] (or perhaps even beyond that) is coming closer and closer. Regarding 4GL, "those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it". Not saying it's a bad thing to be revisiting this, but it has been low-hanging fruit for so long now, you wonder why it took so long for the big companies to engage with it seriously.

[1] https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/microsoft-list...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth-generation_programming_...

Re: Tables: Tracking work for teams

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Are all these comments about the near and inevitable death of your new product at all soul-crushing? I'm a stranger on the internet and even I can feel the burn. Good luck.

As a Googler, I'd just say it's a boring meme that shows little thought and just wastes time actually getting to interesting discussion here. It's almost akin to "first" from the old days of Slashdot or the race to mention generics whenever anything related to Go comes up. Products come and products go, this is not unique to Google. Killed By Google is cited as some sort of proof, but that goes back to _2003_, and do…

It's not a "meme". It's a real fact that anyone who's considering depending on a Google product has to consider.

It's also a consequence of the business models that Google has explicitly chosen, i.e. your employer has chosen to incur this reputation.

Re: Tables: Tracking work for teams

#265

Think Google's obsession with machine learning has got out of control. Looking at some of the other announcements on their blog, there's no way that an actual human either wrote those headlines or came up with the product ideas in the first place: * Fundo: a virtual experiences platform for creators * Shoploop: an entertaining new way to shop online * AdLingo Ads Builder turns an ad into a conversation * GameSnacks b…

I doubt it's machine learning. GPT-3 could probably come up with more interesting sounding products than that.

Re: Tables: Tracking work for teams

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post #233

What's the difference between Google X and Area 120? Hard technology vs. apps/services?

Aside from the bar being set at completely different levels ("making the world a better place" vs building fancy web apps) I guess graduating from X means being spun off as an Alphabet subsidiary, while successful Area 120 projects may see closer integration with Google's core products.

Re: Tables: Tracking work for teams

#268

As a product, this looks super-cool. However, I've got to be honest: while I'd play around with it while it's part of Area 120, there's no way I'd use it in a business until it officially became part of G Suite, as a core service . If Keep and Tasks are core services, then this needs to be too. That becomes a guarantee that it'll stick around basically forever. So it's very exciting to see Google launch something lik…

Anyone remember Google Wave?!

Re: Tables: Tracking work for teams

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post #158

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More like AirTable https://airtable.com

Maybe I'm missing something (because everyone's saying that and votes don't suggest anyone agrees with me) but having not looked at AirTable before... it also looks just like Notion? I'm not linked to any of them, Notion's just the one I've used (not really any more), but all seem the same basic idea. (Depending how you use Notion I suppose - you could just write paragraphs of notes and never see it as a database typ…

Notion has some AirTable-like functionality, but it's more focused on being a knowledge base rather than a database like AirTable and Google Tables.

There's definitely some overlap with the two. This Google project is just more akin to AirTable than Notion.

Re: Tables: Tracking work for teams

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"At Area 120, we work on 20% projects 100% of the time." It literally just has no backing by Google's corporate or business goals.

> "At Area 120, we work on 20% projects 100% of the time." I laughed at that, at first, thinking it were a joke. No, no that's a quote from https://area120.google.com/

Thanks for the clarification, I also thought the parents comment was snark. Obviously that is not ocdtrekkie's fault.
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