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Over 90% of Indian techies in the US are upper-caste Indians

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Post by triceratops »

C1sc0cat wrote: post #149
triceratops wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article's title has "Commentary:" in it. It is an opinion piece, which I failed to spot earlier. I still stand by my assertion that it's not well-written. The difference between a news report and an editorial piece is easy to see once you know the difference. A news report sticks to the facts - who, what, when, where - with little or no commentary. It usually has a summary with all the important points in the fir…

Why do you seem to be finding fault here, its a write up of a legal case by a civilian. Pretty normal for non specialist press when writing up a court case note the author is an Indian and may well be using Indian style English, which does diverge from standard English.

> its a write up of a legal case by a civilian.

It's a piece of writing by a purported "professional" writer and it's pretty bad. Indian-style English still adheres to the rules of regular English grammar.

Re: Over 90% of Indian techies in the US are upper-caste Indians

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Post by zapdrive »

> My college fucking put the caste next to people's names on notice boards for things like seating arrangements for an exam.

You are lying. The colleges never do that, once the admissions are done. Yes, during entrance exams and results, they list the "quota" under which the student is seeking admission. If you don't want to have Scheduled Caste listed against your name, don't seek admission under SC quota.

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Post by sabujp »

The underlying issues with caste based affirmative action are similar to those seen as with the prop 16 fight in CA. I think removing the wording in the CA const is a bad idea. This should have been approached differently, it's a quandary that really cannot be solved until everyone who qualifies gets a chance to go to college. With remote learning I think we can now allow and enroll many more students.

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Post by bluGill »

mywittyname wrote: post #197
strikelaserclaw wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yea but they will never understand the cultural nuances that it takes to become part of the "in" group, and from reading these articles, it seems that "in" group nepotism is rampant in some places. A caste is not just a name, its a cultural legacy you inherit from your parents, their network and society. Even if you ignore the name part, there are some hidden advantages that are conferred to people of higher castes t…

At some point, wouldn't it be difficult for people to tell? A person who grew up outside of India will only have a passing understanding of this nuance anyway, because they would not have been regularly exposed to the other group, so their entire understanding will be from what is passed to them by their parents. And the next generation will have next to zero understanding. Plus, those nuances will probably get erase…

Maybe. The slave class in the US was in theory gone by 1870 (I don't care to look up the end of the civil war. 150 years latter a lot of people still know who is a descendant of that class. Somehow, something, fueled that through several generations.

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Post by covfefeblack »

lowend wrote: post #214

ITT: (Possibly) "Upper caste" Indians claiming: 1. This is due to a few bad apples 2. Reservation is the real problem (no it's not) 3. I don't do it therefore it doesn't exist I can tell you by experience the amount of concious and unconcious bias regarding caste amongst Indians both in India and abroad is ridiculous! I'm light skinned so people assume I'm "upper caste" and speak with me as such. My last name doesn't…

That sucks man :| - I'm sorry you went through that. From my experience, Indian colleges are pathologically socially backwards - more so than the rest of Indian society (as opposed to the west where schools are more progressive than society)

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Post by raincom »

If we go by the rhetoric of 'the caste system', Mukesh Ambani (an Indian billionaire) will hire poor people from his caste for C-level exec positions in Reliance.

Same thing with marriage: look at the billionaires in India. Which one of them has married a poor person from his/her caste? None.

How many of these Indians in FAANG hired some incompetent ones from his caste without acing leetcode hard questions?

If you are super wealthy, caste/color/creed doesn't matter; it is only for the poor schmucks.

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Post by jeffbee »

mcv wrote: post #103

My dad recently told me how during the 1980s they had two Indians working together on a project. Turns out one of them was upper-caste, and the other lower-caste, and the upper-caste basically refused. Was impossible to work with, because he was offended that he had to work with a lower-caste person. If this attitude discrimination of Dalits by upper-castes is really so common in non-Indian companies, it sounds like…

That doesn't seem like a situation where a great deal of discretion and nuance is called for. The "upper-caste" guy should find himself outside the building with all his shit in a cardboard box five minutes after expressing such an attitude.
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