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A list of discontinued Mozilla products and services

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Re: A list of discontinued Mozilla products and services

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The project I am most salty about being dropped is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matchstick_TV . Of course they are probably right that without Netflix support it wouldn't find widespread adoption, however I would have loved to have an open Chromecast.

This was not a Mozilla project.

Re: A list of discontinued Mozilla products and services

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"A walkthrough of Venkman shows off many of it’s features." *its Also, was Camino ever officially a Mozilla product?

Thank you, will fix that! I really should hook up a spell/grammar checker on post-commit or something...

> Also, was Camino ever officially a Mozilla product?

It was until at least late 2004/early 2005, when the website was hosted at mozilla.org/projects/camino [0]. The project's website moved to caminobrowser.org in March 2005 [1], but it's unclear if it remained a Mozilla project after that.

[0]: https://web.archive.org/web/20041117091214/http://www.mozill... [1]: http://caminobrowser.org/blog/2005/#itsofficial

Re: A list of discontinued Mozilla products and services

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Most of Google's offerings that get killed are free and HN jumps all over that (rightfully, IMO).

Different sense of the word 'free' in use here.

Libre versus gratis. You can charge for free software if you like.

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The funny thing is the Google one has google trackers on it and requires JS to view whilst this one has neither.

> The funny thing is the Google one has google trackers Maybe that'll change once Google kills Google Analytics

Google Analytics must Google loads, or they wouldn't push it so much.

Re: A list of discontinued Mozilla products and services

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Some of these are a bit spurious. I mean, Venkman was replaced by Firebug, which was much better. MXR was similarly replaced by DXR. Unlike Google, which look much more arbitrary in their shutdowns, Mozilla typically kill projects that are already on their last leg, or replace them with something objectively better.

Persona stands out here as a huge opportunity lost. It offered a future with a fully decentralized, federated authentication scheme, based on open protocols. Yes, they made some mistakes and adoption was poor. But it worked well and the underlying protocols are something the internet still desperately needs.

Agree. What really frustrated me about Persona, was that the way they portrayed the project was that it was not yet ready for production adoption[1]. And then they cancel it because people weren't using it.

I know I played around with a proof of concept implementation internally, but never deployed it publicly, which was a decision based primarily on their own messaging.

[1] EG the JS implementation and the dependency on persona.org were both temporary stop-gaps to enable fast-prototyping and use in other browsers, but would be replaced with a "real" implementation in the browser that supported multiple providers before broad roll-out.

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I'm still bitter over Google Reader. Damn you, Google.

The Old Reader looks and feels pretty much the same.

Google deleted a bunch of archived blogs that are no longer accessible though.

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I'm still sad to this day that FirefoxOS got axed. Doubly so now since I'm trying to find a new phone after my Nexus 5X stopped getting official builds of LineageOS. I really hope that there's some diabolical plan within Mozilla to bring it back once the wasm world is more established and makes having a fully browser based OS less of a performance hit.

What would FirefoxOS have brought to the average consumer or phone manufacturer?

If your selling points are “it’s all web apps and open source, isn’t that great!”, that is a…marketing challenge, to be sure.

Re: A list of discontinued Mozilla products and services

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Thanks for putting the list together! There are a few that you may want to include: 1. Mozilla Labs (first iteration) 2. Mozilla Ubiquity (which we are seeing the concept re-emerge in Google Chrome) 3. Mozilla Prism 4. Mozilla Bespin (which sorta-lives-on) 5. XULRunner 6. Mozilla Test Pilot (1st and 2nd iterations) I'm likely missing a few more. But a lot of these were experiments, and not concrete product offerings,…

+ Tilt (an addon that added 3d visualization of web-pages and their elements using Canvas).

Re: A list of discontinued Mozilla products and services

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It's an effective word for manipulating the emotions of the reader, and neatly sidesteps the HN prohibition on clickbait titles by putting it in the domain name where it can't be corrected to something less manipulative. I don't necessarily think that it was malicious, and given the parallel to the Google site of the same name, I can't really object strongly, but it's still uncomfortable to see a domain name wielded…

Sorry - that definitely wasn't my intention! Although to be clear, I don't mean this to be anything negative about Mozilla, just an interesting collection of their past projects. There are definitely some changes I can make to the copy though, especially since this list is meant to include everything from commercial products to experiments and internal tools. I think this differs from Killed by Google somewhat in tha…

The killed by google site is not a great HN post - lists are not good HN posts, the discontinued products themselves usually get multiple lengthy discussions, etc.

In Mozilla's case, the layoffs are fairly recent, the discontinued products and services have had their own front page discussions (there was one just yesterday), real people have actually lost their jobs, etc. Intentional or not, this sort of post feels a bit like gawking at a traffic accident.

Re: A list of discontinued Mozilla products and services

#80

I really liked pastebin.mozilla.org and used it a lot back in the day.

It collected a lot of garbage data and was quite the headache to manage. https://paste.mozilla.org/ is fairly similar but there is no longer an option to persist data for more than 21 days.
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