Some of these are a bit spurious. I mean, Venkman was replaced by Firebug, which was much better. MXR was similarly replaced by DXR. Unlike Google, which look much more arbitrary in their shutdowns, Mozilla typically kill projects that are already on their last leg, or replace them with something objectively better.
To be fair, I think that logic applies to some of the items on Google's list too. Like Google Nexus? They changed the name and scope of their phone line. AngularJS? They took the framework in a different direction.
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#42I'm still sad to this day that FirefoxOS got axed. Doubly so now since I'm trying to find a new phone after my Nexus 5X stopped getting official builds of LineageOS. I really hope that there's some diabolical plan within Mozilla to bring it back once the wasm world is more established and makes having a fully browser based OS less of a performance hit.
Performance is not on the top 5 list of things that killed FirefoxOS...
I've still never seen a good retrospective on what went wrong, do you happen to have any links/stories?
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#43Thanks for putting the list together! There are a few that you may want to include: 1. Mozilla Labs (first iteration) 2. Mozilla Ubiquity (which we are seeing the concept re-emerge in Google Chrome) 3. Mozilla Prism 4. Mozilla Bespin (which sorta-lives-on) 5. XULRunner 6. Mozilla Test Pilot (1st and 2nd iterations) I'm likely missing a few more. But a lot of these were experiments, and not concrete product offerings,…
They eventually abandoned XUL entirely because it was hard to maintain and extend.
I wonder how many XUL projects were out there not from mozilla.
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#44Re: A list of discontinued Mozilla products and services
#45Thanks for putting the list together! There are a few that you may want to include: 1. Mozilla Labs (first iteration) 2. Mozilla Ubiquity (which we are seeing the concept re-emerge in Google Chrome) 3. Mozilla Prism 4. Mozilla Bespin (which sorta-lives-on) 5. XULRunner 6. Mozilla Test Pilot (1st and 2nd iterations) I'm likely missing a few more. But a lot of these were experiments, and not concrete product offerings,…
I guess I still have the O'Reilly XUL book somewhere. XULRunner was the precursor to Atom. It was the way mozilla bootstraped firefox long time ago ¿before gecko? and they made public the tool to do it by yourself. They eventually abandoned XUL entirely because it was hard to maintain and extend. I wonder how many XUL projects were out there not from mozilla.
ActiveState IDEs and Zotero come to mind.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
I guess I still have the O'Reilly XUL book somewhere. XULRunner was the precursor to Atom. It was the way mozilla bootstraped firefox long time ago ¿before gecko? and they made public the tool to do it by yourself. They eventually abandoned XUL entirely because it was hard to maintain and extend. I wonder how many XUL projects were out there not from mozilla.
> I wonder how many XUL projects were out there not from mozilla. ActiveState IDEs and Zotero come to mind.
(Anyone here work on that? I have great nostalgia for it and the cute black bird logo)
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#47I'm still sad to this day that FirefoxOS got axed. Doubly so now since I'm trying to find a new phone after my Nexus 5X stopped getting official builds of LineageOS. I really hope that there's some diabolical plan within Mozilla to bring it back once the wasm world is more established and makes having a fully browser based OS less of a performance hit.
Re: A list of discontinued Mozilla products and services
#48Thanks for putting the list together! There are a few that you may want to include: 1. Mozilla Labs (first iteration) 2. Mozilla Ubiquity (which we are seeing the concept re-emerge in Google Chrome) 3. Mozilla Prism 4. Mozilla Bespin (which sorta-lives-on) 5. XULRunner 6. Mozilla Test Pilot (1st and 2nd iterations) I'm likely missing a few more. But a lot of these were experiments, and not concrete product offerings,…
I haven't noticed this, can you explain more?
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#49Re: A list of discontinued Mozilla products and services
#50Some of these are a bit spurious. I mean, Venkman was replaced by Firebug, which was much better. MXR was similarly replaced by DXR. Unlike Google, which look much more arbitrary in their shutdowns, Mozilla typically kill projects that are already on their last leg, or replace them with something objectively better.
Yes, they made some mistakes and adoption was poor. But it worked well and the underlying protocols are something the internet still desperately needs.