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Paris hails victory over short-stay rents

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Re: Paris hails victory over short-stay rents

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I don't fall strongly on either side of these debates, but I'm kind of against the debate as a whole.

I just don't think that trade offs between short stay rentals, even airbnb hotels, and rental housing has much of a win in it for renters even if advocates get everything they want. It seems like a marginal, symbolic issue that sucks up a lot of attention without the potential for meaningful results.

Are bans on short term rentals going to noticeably affect housing prices of availability. If not, why are affordable housing activists so interested in this?

The whole thing feels like win hunting.

Re: Paris hails victory over short-stay rents

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post #3

I don't fall strongly on either side of these debates, but I'm kind of against the debate as a whole. I just don't think that trade offs between short stay rentals, even airbnb hotels, and rental housing has much of a win in it for renters even if advocates get everything they want. It seems like a marginal, symbolic issue that sucks up a lot of attention without the potential for meaningful results. Are bans on shor…

I see this a lot. People fight against the aesthetic of things they dislike rather than the cause of things they dislike

Re: Paris hails victory over short-stay rents

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post #3

I don't fall strongly on either side of these debates, but I'm kind of against the debate as a whole. I just don't think that trade offs between short stay rentals, even airbnb hotels, and rental housing has much of a win in it for renters even if advocates get everything they want. It seems like a marginal, symbolic issue that sucks up a lot of attention without the potential for meaningful results. Are bans on shor…

It's mainly to protect Hotels, bed-taxes, etc.

Re: Paris hails victory over short-stay rents

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post #3

I don't fall strongly on either side of these debates, but I'm kind of against the debate as a whole. I just don't think that trade offs between short stay rentals, even airbnb hotels, and rental housing has much of a win in it for renters even if advocates get everything they want. It seems like a marginal, symbolic issue that sucks up a lot of attention without the potential for meaningful results. Are bans on shor…

It’s not just housing prices. It’s community and neighborhood. People want to live in a neighborhood with actual people, not a decentralized hotel. I say this as someone who has done short term rentals in Paris—it was nice for me, but I can see how annoying it must be for residents.

Re: Paris hails victory over short-stay rents

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post #3

I don't fall strongly on either side of these debates, but I'm kind of against the debate as a whole. I just don't think that trade offs between short stay rentals, even airbnb hotels, and rental housing has much of a win in it for renters even if advocates get everything they want. It seems like a marginal, symbolic issue that sucks up a lot of attention without the potential for meaningful results. Are bans on shor…

People were complaining that central Paris was unaffordable before AirBnb, and they will still complain after AirBnb.

Highly sought after locations will always be unaffordable to most, but politicians cannot admit this fact (at least publicly) so they will continue to discuss the issue ad vitam aeternam, and obviously pressure groups will have a job for life.

That being said, I think people mostly complain about AirBnb because it turns their building into a hotel with people coming and going all the time.

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I wonder if this has a positive or negative effect on tourism within Paris?

I feel like someone first decides on a destination and then decides on where to stay. I don't think a sizable portion of travelers prioritize staying in an apartment or private home over visiting Paris.
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