Like clockwork at 7? Seems impossible. Who turns on their tv exactly at 7.00 every day? Something does not add up here.
Little old ladies.
Old TV caused village broadband outages for 18 months
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#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
My last home was built about 5 years ago, and the house builder had fitted fibre ducting to the curb, but when OpenReach turned up they came with a ladder and slung up a copper cable. Maybe on a massive development they will install brand new street cabinets, but anything smaller than a few hundred homes, copper is still the standard.
This is our situation too. What makes it worse is we have Cable in the area too, but that stops on the public street, and doesn't come on to the estate. We were looking to move recently and almost bought a house from a sub company of Persimmons (yeah, we pulled out after we found out they were involved), but the houses all had Fibre to the premises. Except the provider was a monopoly, and was owned by Persimmons. App…
Do you mean FibreNest (the Persimmon owned one?). I can't understand how they are allowed to get away with that!
We live on a relatively recent Persimmon estate but luckily OFNL got the contract; even that's a bit dodgy, all of the ISPs have crap websites and are a little dodgy looking (although the service has been alright).
And yeh, no BT line. It was an exclusive contract. OpenReach say they wont even install lines until the roads are adopted. Ironically, there is an independent Care Home built next door to us & OpenReach have been up and down the street and in our estate cabinet busy fitting their lines....
Re: Old TV caused village broadband outages for 18 months
#163Is newsworthy because of the Tv or because openreach actually found the problem?
I bet he can sell that TV at a high price online.
«Watch Tv while disrupting your neighbours internet! «
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The electricity neutral for your home used the internet cable line? The amount of macguyvering to get that to work at all in the first place boggles the mind.
It's more that the cable line was connected to the home's ground plate which the neutral was also tied to (neutral is tied to ground so it can discharge excess current in the home's electrical system during thunderstorms or power surges). When the neutral was cut on the service line, the return path for the mains current became residential ground->cable line->neutral in cable trunk. Since coax drops aren't designed t…
I’m honestly surprised the low voltage cable lasted as long as it did.
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#165I recently had my own host of cable internet issues. So about 3 months ago the RJ45 cable in my cable modem melted . I thought it was a freak accident. I checked all of my networking equipment, checked my outlets, etc. No problems. So I installed a new cable and then everything was fine. Cue 2 weeks ago. Connectivity became intermittent and then finally I had no internet for almost a week. Comcast wouldn't be able to…
> Comcast wouldn't be able to send anyone out for a month Is there a good explanation for how this can be the case in a developed country?
Is there a good explanation for how this can be the case in a developed country?
Since his story is worded as if it happened recently, it could be COVID-related.
Back in April I tried to get my cable company to install its home security system where I live. I was told no, because the company wasn't sending techs into anyone's homes until the virus let up.
I tried again in August, and was told it would be a very long while, as the service guys were still catching up on the backlog.
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#166I naively thought this was going to be somewhere like rural India, not the UK (albeit relatively rural Wales). I'm forever calling out engineers because the line crackles to the point it's difficult to take a call and my internet speed drops from ~65Mbps to ~10. Maybe I should start looking for old TVs. Somehow, being on a road where the houses were only built 5 years ago we have copper lines and on my side of the st…
On my street, my house is one of 4 connected directly to the exchange instead of a cabinet, which means I can't get fibre (only FTTC is available here). BT/Openreach/Whoever aren't interested in changing this, but luckily I can get Virgin Media (overpriced IMO, but better than the 20Mb alternative).
Do you need fibre at all? I recently moved and didn't bother with it. Instead I'm using a 4G unlimited data SIM from Vodafone in a Huawei 4G/5G router. The speeds are normally around 80Mbps. I have no complaints whatsoever.
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#167Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thanks for that feedback. I'm having to do a lot more writing for my job now so being able to improve my writing with honest feedback is super important. I agree, I even cringed a little bit when I wrote it. But I didn't want to fully give everything away so it was just a bad edit :) Your suggestion would work a lot better.
Be sure to write specifically for your target audience. That clickbait would work if your target was the Lowest Common Denominator. It doesn't work so well with a highly technical audience.
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#168It's interesting comparing the stories on this from various sources. Sometimes M. Jones is an engineer for OpenReach; sometimes xe is an unspecified engineer. The television is sometimes "old"; sometimes "second-hand" (which doesn't necessarily mean old). Sometimes it is the householder who is old, referred to in some newspapers as an Old Age Pensioner. A few reports say things that the BBC does not, which have come…
Addendum: The only major exception here, to just recycling a press release with no other sources and no attribution (and making up things like "pensioner") or recyling the BBC report, seems to be Simon Sharwood of The Register, who did some legwork to obtain from an ISP a quote explaining SHINE, and that a AM radio can detect it; and attributed things to "Openreach's statement".
* https://www.theregister.com/2020/09/22/old_tv_broke_broadban...
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#169Earlier quoted context omitted.
The electricity neutral for your home used the internet cable line? The amount of macguyvering to get that to work at all in the first place boggles the mind.
Not deliberately. The neutral from the Power co. failed, then his house power sought out another pathway. The coax was grounded to the house's service ground (as it should be), and became a return path for the electric his house was using.
> his house power sought out another pathway
Pedantically (but with the justification that this is safety-critical): Electricity always takes every path, just in inverse proportion to the impedance of the paths.
If a fleshy 1000 ohm resistor touched that service ground, you'd get some electrons there too, and possibly enough to kill.
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#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
There might be fiber running up the village. If the speed doesn't saturate DSL or coax standards, running fiber to every home is not very wise, even for long term. Until recently, fiber was not even that cheap to distribute in larger cities. It's been 3-4 years since the city I live in switched to FTTX distribution.
Yeah, funny how ISPs in rich countries can't afford infrastructure upgrades. Until some competition shows up. Too bad Google Fiber stopped expanding in the US, i remember reading that everywhere they showed up the "traditional" ISPs suddenly found money to upgrade their infrastructure and reduce prices.
The only thing saving rural areas are cooperatives. Our cooperative committed to running true gigabit fiber to all members within two years of announcing it as an option (and lifetime price locks!!!).
Then they committed to running it to all non-members living in the service area who sign up within 5 more years.
If it weren't for cooperatives, we'd be left in the dirt for decades. Our local township signed an agreement with AT&T back in the day for AT&T to offer high speed internet. So, their high speed is dial-up that they have never upgraded, but the agreement grants them a monopoly.
I blame the local township government for not knowing what the hell they were doing, and I blame AT&T for sitting on a monopoly and never doing anything with it.
Either way, Fiber now!!