The core issue in market heavy economies is that people with money make money and everyone else doesn't. Being smart and hard working and having poor parents means you will be poor. Being dumb and lazy with rich parents means you will be rich. Maybe with 3 or 4 full generations of nothing but hard work and luck you might make it up from working to middle class. Maybe. This is never really discussed directly. Only usi…
Over 90% of Indian techies in the US are upper-caste Indians
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Re: Over 90% of Indian techies in the US are upper-caste Indians
#22This article is almost a caricature of articles like itself. What makes this interesting to people? Is it because it's so over the top with bad tropes it becomes funny?
Re: Over 90% of Indian techies in the US are upper-caste Indians
#23The core issue in market heavy economies is that people with money make money and everyone else doesn't. Being smart and hard working and having poor parents means you will be poor. Being dumb and lazy with rich parents means you will be rich. Maybe with 3 or 4 full generations of nothing but hard work and luck you might make it up from working to middle class. Maybe. This is never really discussed directly. Only usi…
"Oh look at those poor backward indians!!"
Well, most of the rich people I know had rich parents.
If you can live with your parents while building your company or they gift you a few thousand dollars, that's often the make or break factor that saves your ass when pivoting a few times.
Re: Over 90% of Indian techies in the US are upper-caste Indians
#24How does one tactfully determine what percentage of a company is Indian?
Re: Over 90% of Indian techies in the US are upper-caste Indians
#25This article is almost a caricature of articles like itself. What makes this interesting to people? Is it because it's so over the top with bad tropes it becomes funny?
No, it's interesting because this whole caste thing is _horrifying_ to any sort of egalitarian - eg _almost everyone in tech_
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#26I doubt I'll make many friends adding this in, but an uncomfortable statistical artefact of an affirmative action program is the candidates in that program are very likely going to have lower average competence than the rest of the cohort. That observation in particular was (1) probably not acceptable in the workplace and (2) possibly justifiable depending on how serious the affirmative action policies were.
The statistical results around an affective action program are all actually pretty brutal, both to the people in the program and the people who aren't. I forget where to find a good link, but it is related to my favourite stats paradox, Simpson's paradox. They are not a tool people should want to use.
Re: Over 90% of Indian techies in the US are upper-caste Indians
#27Good reading in this context: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unequal_Childhoods
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#29It's funny how this is NEVER mentioned in the media. I guess BLM is "so hot" right now (but to be honest this caste issue was never mention even before BLM also). Perhaps this is because in the West this concepts of casts within society is completely foreign to us. So for a Westerner this does not create any acute psychological response if someone says "I'm a Dalit". A westerner would be like "huh, yeah ok man, I hav…
Re: Over 90% of Indian techies in the US are upper-caste Indians
#30Which leads me to believe that this can't be happening on any systemic level (I did read the article, so yea it does happen but I can't believe that it happens a lot).
"Caste-ist" indians simply don't hold enough sway in hiring decisions in the US to make any significant dent. If lower castes are being oppressed, it's only by their own cultural attitudes. Just start making more non-indian friends and assimilate.