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I asked an online tracking company for all of my data (2018)

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Re: I asked an online tracking company for all of my data (2018)

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It'd be useful if the author revealed how she managed to obtain her data. I am pretty sure that a request with just your real name wouldn't reveal much. I assume that most data is collected under some identifier which isn't matched to your real name in order to thwart this kind of request.

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Re: I asked an online tracking company for all of my data (2018)

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post #113

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There are sites (like wwe.com) where after you have successfully located the preference to opt out from everything it shows a "processing" screen which is stuck at 98% for about a minute. But accept is "processed" in an instant. Another dark pattern is showing you have opted out but some sites cannot receive opt out requests through https which is written in small fonts. By doing this they have successfully targeted…

I think what's really needed is an extension that automatically selects options for you to disable everything.

The default is disable everything (otherwise it's not GDPR compliant). That banner is to try to trick you into accepting the same old.

You're better off finding a good cookie/GDPR banner blocker

Re: I asked an online tracking company for all of my data (2018)

#145
post #3

This latest trend is so annoying: there is either "Accept" or: "See purpose". And the "Don't accept" stuff is hidden under "See purpose". Infuriating.

The tracking banners frenzy gdpr started is unbearable. It has decreased the usability of the web significantly. Everyone is obsessed with improving page loading time but what does worth that the page loads instantly if I have to navigate a maze of banner consent screens before I can see the content behind it Why can't everyone at least agree on the same banner format / ui or have it delegated to the browser behind s…

The page loads instantly because there's no tracking crud all over it in my experience of forcing* GDPR compatibility on clients

* sorry I meant strongly advising using legalese

P.s. I'll throw an internet party when Hotjar go out of business. Creepy fucks ruin the load time of every site they tarnish.

Re: I asked an online tracking company for all of my data (2018)

#146

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This is the correct answer. It's done by cookie matching. Source: I worked on these products at Quantcast.

Thanks for clarifying that. I had no idea that Credit Card companies even that information about cookies. Many people (especially on HN) think that this kind of data collection is unethical. How do you feel about that and did you like working on it?

It's a sizable revenue stream for the payment networks, credit bureaus, Tivo/Roku, and others you wouldn't even think of. When a cashier asks you for your zip code or phone number in the store, that's two ways used to tie the purchase back to your identity.

I did enjoy my time at Quantcast. The dataset is used for more than targeting advertising. For example, Quantcast's offers a free analytics product that uses the same dataset.

I am conflicted, and my view on data collection more broadly is more nuanced than what's in this comment. For this kind of data collection specifically: On one hand, it's how the entire publishing industry has built their revenue model. And I like news, sports, content, etc. On the other hand, it's creepy for a 3rd-party service that I've never heard of or interacted with being able to infer traits about me based on my browsing patterns, and then sell targeted advertising to yet another company I've never interacted with. I use an adblocker specifically for this reason, despite running an analytics startup.

Re: I asked an online tracking company for all of my data (2018)

#147
post #3

This latest trend is so annoying: there is either "Accept" or: "See purpose". And the "Don't accept" stuff is hidden under "See purpose". Infuriating.

One of the only websites I've seen that offers a big and clear "Decline" button is NextRoll's advertising service [0], e.g. seen on Texas Instruments' website [1]. But I haven't checked whether clicking the "Decline" button actually opts out everything.

[0] https://www.nextroll.com/trust-center

[1] https://www.ti.com/product/TPS543620

Re: I asked an online tracking company for all of my data (2018)

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I'm wondering if enforcing this on the browser level wouldn't make more sense. I mean, if a site use cookies or wants to track you in any other ways it would have to ask for your permission the same way you are asked before accessing your camera or microphone. You could opt-in or opt-out which should be the default if you don't make any choice. Then the sites would have to clearly stop you from accessing their conten…

You might be interested in the proposed Do Not Track header, which has so far failed to get any traction. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_Not_Track

It's worth noting that Microsoft enabled Do Not Track in Internet Explorer by default just after it started to gain traction, which caused a small backlash against its use [0], notably Apache started to ignore all DNT headers from Internet Explorer.

I have to wonder whether it was an intentional effort by Microsoft to discredit DNT and to stop people from respecting it... On one hand, the same outcome (almost ignored everywhere) is likely to occur regardless of whether Microsoft made its move, on the other hand, it may have gave it a greater push.

[0] I have my cynical Fundamental Law of Privacy - it must not be enabled by default, so that the industry will continue profiting from it, while giving the user the illusion of choice. But at least those who enabled it enjoyed privacy, although only to a very limited extent.

Re: I asked an online tracking company for all of my data (2018)

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I’ll look at the PP today. Not sarcasm, we issue GDPR requests from an app on device, and you can request data (back to your device and not through us unless stated). Deletion requests are done as well. Data brokers, as a group, are obviously very anti-consumer, and getting them to comply in CA has been a huge headache (most simply do not). Prop 24 should help, so it’s going to be a long burn for consumers to take co…

>> Not sarcasm Alright, that's good, because I would really love for there to be a service that would streamline the way I request data from service providers or request the deletion of data connected to my account, as well as the account itself. However, your site says: >> We import and analyze all of your data across your online accounts and give you an audit and a plan of action. Doesn't that mean that apart from…

No, you are. Which has been a pain on our side to not have possession of the data, and also why it is an app for desktop if you want to have a copy of your data. It can be really large for a mobile device, and processing in the background is generally not available on mobile. Trying to get some things on mobile though -- deletion is easier than copies of data.

And yeah, we don't want to become a honeypot for what is the largest profile on you -- the combination of all the others.

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