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I asked an online tracking company for all of my data (2018)
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Re: I asked an online tracking company for all of my data (2018)
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Re: I asked an online tracking company for all of my data (2018)
#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is that really the case? I'm thinking about minimum wage. If it wasn't there, would people get paid less, or more?
Some people would be paid less - those that produce output below min wage level but the employer has no way to avoid hiring them and just eats the difference. Also those that produce output above min wage but there are many people willing to do the same work for min wage so they don't have a choice to agree to that wage too. Some would be paid more - those that produce output below min wage level and the potential em…
In the end, the free market would decide how much 1 hour of work is worth. If employees are sufficiently desperate, this could be below what it takes to keep the human doing the work alive.
This reminds me of Grapes of Wrath.
Re: I asked an online tracking company for all of my data (2018)
#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
Send an email to the address specified (privacy@quantcast.com) with your information and what you're trying to accomplish (typically either a disclosure of what personal information they have on you, or erasure of any said information). They will almost certainly satisfy your request (even if you don't truly live in California or the EU) because there are significant regulatory repercussions for not responding to leg…
Depends on the company. Atlassian for example thinks they've found a loophole by not allowing access to your account -- California allows a business to use logins to verify identity if you already have an account, but if they turn a blind eye and don't let you in with valid credentials then they supposedly don't have to respond to data access or deletion requests. I haven't cared enough to get a lawyer involved (whic…
A prefect example of the utility of class actions.
Re: I asked an online tracking company for all of my data (2018)
#135This latest trend is so annoying: there is either "Accept" or: "See purpose". And the "Don't accept" stuff is hidden under "See purpose". Infuriating.
I'm wondering if enforcing this on the browser level wouldn't make more sense. I mean, if a site use cookies or wants to track you in any other ways it would have to ask for your permission the same way you are asked before accessing your camera or microphone. You could opt-in or opt-out which should be the default if you don't make any choice. Then the sites would have to clearly stop you from accessing their conten…
You might be interested in the proposed Do Not Track header, which has so far failed to get any traction. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_Not_Track
Re: I asked an online tracking company for all of my data (2018)
#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is this comment and that website [0] sarcasm? What exactly are you automating? The theft of my PII or the opposite? On this matter your privacy policy[1] confuse me. Sorry if I'm being a daft punk. [0] https://www.privicy.com [1] https://www.privicy.com/legal/privacy-policy
>The theft of my PII or the opposite? Please consider referring to it as spying over theft and PII about you, as opposed to your PII? Part of the server logs may be about you but are not yours per say.
Certainly seems like theft to me. Just because computers spew ridiculous amounts of PII does not mean company xyz llc has a right to collect that information or to use it for anything without educated and explicit opt in disclosure that verbosely enumerates every single instance in which said PII will be used between the time of collection and the heat death of the universe.
'server logs' fails to account for how that data is used which should explicitly defined. Failures to do so is misappropriation. A good litigation firm couls retire by challenging reckless companies on these grounds.
Re: I asked an online tracking company for all of my data (2018)
#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
Send an email to the address specified (privacy@quantcast.com) with your information and what you're trying to accomplish (typically either a disclosure of what personal information they have on you, or erasure of any said information). They will almost certainly satisfy your request (even if you don't truly live in California or the EU) because there are significant regulatory repercussions for not responding to leg…
Depends on the company. Atlassian for example thinks they've found a loophole by not allowing access to your account -- California allows a business to use logins to verify identity if you already have an account, but if they turn a blind eye and don't let you in with valid credentials then they supposedly don't have to respond to data access or deletion requests. I haven't cared enough to get a lawyer involved (whic…
Try emailing legal@atlassian.com if privacy@atlassian.com isn't getting you anywhere.
I can't speak to Atlassian specifically, but at sufficiently large companies, privacy@ emails tend to get routed directly to internal compliance teams, which may be operating under/within the legal org or just using a playbook legal has previously signed off on.
Legal@ has a good chance of being monitored by someone else. Worst case they route it back to the appropriate team and you continue getting stonewalled. Best case, the new set of eyeballs on the conversation has a very different view of the legal risk of your stonewalling experience, and you get what you want.
I haven't tried the above for compliance requests (as I'm not in a jurisdiction covered by GDPR or CCPA), but general BigCo experience has taught me just how variable responses from legal can be depending on which particular lawyer covers it[1]. Every lawyer evaluates risk in their own way, based on their experience, understanding, and conservative (or not) predilections. Simply having your correspondence seen by a different set of (legal) eyes could be enough to get a more satisfactory outcome for you.
[1] Or in this case, if the legal team sees it at all. Which may not be the case for privacy/compliance requests, if they've been delegated to a purpose-specific team that's operating off of a playbook.
Re: I asked an online tracking company for all of my data (2018)
#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are sites (like wwe.com) where after you have successfully located the preference to opt out from everything it shows a "processing" screen which is stuck at 98% for about a minute. But accept is "processed" in an instant. Another dark pattern is showing you have opted out but some sites cannot receive opt out requests through https which is written in small fonts. By doing this they have successfully targeted…
> There are sites (like wwe.com) where after you have successfully located the preference to opt out from everything it shows a "processing" screen which is stuck at 98% for about a minute. But accept is "processed" in an instant. This one drives me nuts! It's just such a brazen and blatent piss-take - "you won't let us hoover up your data and sell it to everyone we can? Then we'll punish you".
Well, that indeed sounds a bit like something Vince McMahon might have said.
Re: I asked an online tracking company for all of my data (2018)
#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you really want them to be able sell information about you like "Heavy home alcohol purchaser" to whoever pays them?
they can already. but as you can see, it's more often than not wrong information. There's so much scam the scammers scam themselves. Also, I couldn't care less, honestly. If I were a "Heavy home alcohol purchaser", perhaps I'd like to receive latest news related to that and promotions? I don't think privacy is the matter here at all. I think it's a problem with how we perceive our economy, which molds our entire life…
A prospective employer could buy the information about your alcohol use and decide not to hire you. An opponent in a lawsuit could use it to show you have a pattern of heavy alcohol use that caused you to be negligent. When you run for office in 10 years the other party will run attack ads against you using the information. Need I go on?
Re: I asked an online tracking company for all of my data (2018)
#140I do not understand the complacency of people. Maybe they think that their freedom is unassailable? The commercial surveillance industry is a real threat. It exploits citizens' data and in doing so serves the dictatorial interests of government and the amoral activities of capitalism. The surveillance industry is also inept, and cybercriminals and state actors will get the data eventually.
I feel the biggest problem is most of this happened before there was awareness. This isn't something an individual can stop anymore, it needs an collective massive effort to stop, blocking ads or trackers is only fighting the symptoms not the cause. So we need these practices to not happen, somehow. Legalisation is the obvious answer and there lies the problem, this is one thing where technological advancements fast outpaced legislation, and it doesn't help that big tech generally goes the way of practicing questionable or even illegal methods simply waiting to be called upon, then get away with empty promises, operating internationally they've gotten too powerful for a single government to deal with. So we need intenternational governmental cooperation in an field where those same governments benefit from this data, good luck with that. (is love to have a purely technical solution like blocking ads to work, but the problem isn't a technical one)