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I asked an online tracking company for all of my data (2018)

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Re: I asked an online tracking company for all of my data (2018)

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Post by ratww »

megous wrote: post #50
wasmitnetzen wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a form[1] linked in their privacy policy[2], which doesn't work and tells me I'm not inside the EU or California, which I am. [1]: https://www.quantcast.com/privacy/data-subject-rights/ [2]: https://www.quantcast.com/privacy/

The same for me. I'm in the middle of EU, lol. Tracking company can't (will not?) track locations to at least hit the continent correctly.

Same, and I'm in Berlin. I asked a few friends spread around EU and all of them saw the error page.

This is probably a dark pattern disguised as a mistake.

Re: I asked an online tracking company for all of my data (2018)

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Post by dade_ »

motohagiography wrote: post #38

It occurred to me that if you want to see fewer ads and be generally left alone by marketers, get your IP and online data footprint associated with pariah topics like fringe news sites, weird subcultures, edgy politics, drug use, and privacy. Basically like being a hacker in the 1980s and 90s, or even part of early rave culture, where the sort of people who work in marketing would be afraid or uncomfortable with bein…

Until you travel to the US. I am sure the DHS uses this data as well.

Re: I asked an online tracking company for all of my data (2018)

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Post by smnrchrds »

teekert wrote: post #3

This latest trend is so annoying: there is either "Accept" or: "See purpose". And the "Don't accept" stuff is hidden under "See purpose". Infuriating.

I have seen worse. Der Speigel has "Accept" and redirection to sign up page for a paid subscription. I wan under the impression that forcing people to agree to tracking by withholding services until they do is not allowed under GDPR. Well, apparently it is.

https://www.spiegel.de

https://imgur.com/VWBmUzU

Re: I asked an online tracking company for all of my data (2018)

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Post by _trampeltier »

Maybe a bit of topic, but since we all should pay cashless, because of corona, what info does a shop get about me, if I pay with a debit card or credit card? Has someone a data sample? And what company's get (buy) information about what I bought with my debit card?

Re: I asked an online tracking company for all of my data (2018)

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Post by ratww »

smhg wrote: post #37
newswasboring wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are sites (like wwe.com) where after you have successfully located the preference to opt out from everything it shows a "processing" screen which is stuck at 98% for about a minute. But accept is "processed" in an instant. Another dark pattern is showing you have opted out but some sites cannot receive opt out requests through https which is written in small fonts. By doing this they have successfully targeted…

> it shows a "processing" screen which is stuck at 98% for about a minute Proximus [0], the partially state-owned and largest telecom provider in Belgium, uses this pattern too. Additionally, on mobile, scrolling through the cookie-usage options automatically selects the maximum invasive option. The 'scroll-touch' is registered as a regular touch selecting the option. It's hard to believe this is by accident. [0] htt…

This is also Truste/TrustArc [1] that GP mentioned, and they do it on every website they're installed.

Looking at their Javascript code and Timeline in the inspector it is 100% fake. It is all implemented using setTimeout and there's no communication with the server in the meantime.

[1] https://trustarc.com/cookie-consent-manager/

Re: I asked an online tracking company for all of my data (2018)

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Post by sroussey »

chopin wrote: post #9

It'd be useful if the author revealed how she managed to obtain her data. I am pretty sure that a request with just your real name wouldn't reveal much. I assume that most data is collected under some identifier which isn't matched to your real name in order to thwart this kind of request.

It’s a pain, but we are automating it. You can signup at https://www.privicy.com/privicypal/about

Re: I asked an online tracking company for all of my data (2018)

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Post by ratww »

smnrchrds wrote: post #63
teekert wrote: post #3

This latest trend is so annoying: there is either "Accept" or: "See purpose". And the "Don't accept" stuff is hidden under "See purpose". Infuriating.

I have seen worse. Der Speigel has "Accept" and redirection to sign up page for a paid subscription. I wan under the impression that forcing people to agree to tracking by withholding services until they do is not allowed under GDPR. Well, apparently it is. https://www.spiegel.de https://imgur.com/VWBmUzU

> I wan under the impression that forcing people to agree to tracking by withholding services until they do is not allowed under GDPR.

You're 100% correct in your assumption. Der Spiegel is treading on thin ice here, or at least I hope they are.

Here's the relevant GDPR text:

Consent should not be regarded as freely given if the data subject has no genuine or free choice or is unable to refuse or withdraw consent without detriment [1]

[1] https://gdpr.eu/gdpr-consent-requirements/

Re: I asked an online tracking company for all of my data (2018)

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Post by zyberzero »

ratww wrote: post #61
megous wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same for me. I'm in the middle of EU, lol. Tracking company can't (will not?) track locations to at least hit the continent correctly.

Same, and I'm in Berlin. I asked a few friends spread around EU and all of them saw the error page. This is probably a dark pattern disguised as a mistake.

Does not work in Sweden either. Neither on Bahnhof nor Telia as ISP.

Re: I asked an online tracking company for all of my data (2018)

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Post by ratww »

snicky wrote: post #53
teekert wrote: post #3

This latest trend is so annoying: there is either "Accept" or: "See purpose". And the "Don't accept" stuff is hidden under "See purpose". Infuriating.

I'm wondering if enforcing this on the browser level wouldn't make more sense. I mean, if a site use cookies or wants to track you in any other ways it would have to ask for your permission the same way you are asked before accessing your camera or microphone. You could opt-in or opt-out which should be the default if you don't make any choice. Then the sites would have to clearly stop you from accessing their conten…

This is how it should be. Unfortunately even if this becomes a standard I can foresee Google dragging their feet on this and never implementing, and providers refusing to comply on grounds of "the user didn't reeeeeally mean to block tracking".
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