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Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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Post by TheKnack »

lifty wrote: post #107
Firebrand wrote: post #84

Bethesda Games are not going not be exclusive to Xbox -- Confirmed by Todd Howard: >Like our original partnership, this one is about more than one system or one screen. We share a deep belief in the fundamental power of games, in their ability to connect, empower, and bring joy. And a belief we should bring that to everyone - regardless of who you are, where you live, or what you play on. Regardless of the screen siz…

While statements like these are common when mergers/buyouts happen, the final decision down the line will not be his to make. Not saying that things will not happen as he states, but it shouldn't be seen as a certainty.

When Facebook bought Oculus, Palmer Luckey said that a Facebook login would never be required to use Oculus products. The Oculus Quest 2 that comes out in October will require a Facebook login.

https://www.roadtovr.com/oculus-guarantee-promise-facebook-l...

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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Post by ubercore »

curiousllama wrote: post #226
bsagdiyev wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is The Outer Worlds? I heard it is basically space Fallout, which if that is half as good as it sounds I am all over it.

Great game, but it's a 3+-hours-at-a-time kind of game. Hard to play with lots of time constraints on your sessions.

Huh, I kind of disagree with that. It's like Fallout in that you can pop in and make some decent progress on a side story or just poke around if you have limited time. I definitely didn't do very many 3 hour sessions when I played it.

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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Post by lazyjones »

bsagdiyev wrote: post #45
Danieru wrote: post #32

Incredible that Fallout and Obsidian are now under the same roof again. The Outer Worlds was fun, and I want to see Obsidians efforts continue. Still, new Vegas 2 would be fine too.

How is The Outer Worlds? I heard it is basically space Fallout, which if that is half as good as it sounds I am all over it.

It feels like a 10-15 years old game, has no replayability (unlike Fallout 3/4) but it's an unusual/interesting experience.

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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Post by ianhorn »

QuixoticQuibit wrote: post #194
curiousllama wrote: post #172

Microsoft is just trying to recreate console lock-in without having to subsidize hardware so much. (1) Microsoft is trying to expand their gaming division, but struggle with first-party games. This acquisition is an acknowledgement that MSFT needs Bethesda creatives. (2) Microsoft's big strategy right now is to build their Xbox ecosystem - they're pushing GamePass, Xcloud, etc. heavily, and trying to become Netflix f…

I don’t see how $10/mo is at all profitable with them adding all these AAA games to it.

Maybe $10/mo towards games from studios they own is more profitable than $10/mo towards games from elsewhere?

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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Post by wwright »

apatters wrote: post #94
francis_t_catte wrote: post #22

Soon we'll just have Microsoft, Epic, and a conglomeration of EA, Activision, and Ubisoft after Bobby Kotick forces them all to merge. Facebook will bungle up any chance they have of capturing the gaming market after writing a cryptic paragraph about their legal right to request blood samples from all Oculous users in the TOS. Valve will quietly exit software development altogether, and pivot to building custom vanit…

Sure, if you ate McDonald's every day you'd probably think that there are no good restaurants anymore. My top 4 games by playtime in the last few years were Rimworld, Oxygen Not Included, Dwarf Fortress and WoW Classic. Honorable mentions go to Spelunky and Stellaris. It's to everyone's great regret that a single one of these titles was purchased by one of the shitty publishers you mentioned, fortunately it's the one…

WoW Classic is Activision, isn't it?

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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Post by kingtobbe »

kleiba wrote: post #195
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could make the argument that because of Steam having such reach / monopoly on the PC gaming market, Steam (and by extension Valve) is effectively the publisher of games like that, and a very large one at that. There's GoG that mostly focuses on vintage games, and Epic that spends tons of money to get (timed?) exclusives on indie games + free handouts, but I'm not sure how well it's working for them to get market…

Correct me if I'm wrong, but was id actually involved in the 2009 Wolfenstein or in New Order? I think not. However, they did develop Doom 2016...

Wolfenstein was made by Machinegames. Though there is quite a bit of overlap between the two studios during production.

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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Post by javier10e6 »

From Betheasda news press release: "And, we have a long history of working with Microsoft. Our companies share many of the same basic principles. We believe in a culture that values passion, quality, collaboration, and innovation."

Last week Microsoft was thanking Trump from giving them a chance to acquire TikTok. It did not go well.

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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Post by abvdasker »

This acquisition has interesting timing given that they acquired Obsidian not long ago and we know Obsidian is developing a first person fantasy RPG (Bethesda's bread and butter). Have to imagine M$ execs will be thinking about further consolidation.

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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Post by criddell »

francis_t_catte wrote: post #22

Soon we'll just have Microsoft, Epic, and a conglomeration of EA, Activision, and Ubisoft after Bobby Kotick forces them all to merge. Facebook will bungle up any chance they have of capturing the gaming market after writing a cryptic paragraph about their legal right to request blood samples from all Oculous users in the TOS. Valve will quietly exit software development altogether, and pivot to building custom vanit…

If Epic is successful in their lawsuit against Apple, then I think it's only a matter of time before the consoles will have to allow alternate stores as well.

The hardware-is-sold-at-a-loss argument that people like to use to defend closed console stores isn't as convincing when the console makers also own the biggest money making game studios as well.

Go Epic, go!

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