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Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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Really? I was immediately unimpressed when they started trying to claim they did it so they can make better games, rather than because Microsoft offered them a boatload of money.

Why not both? So far Microsoft has been pretty "hands off" with the development process of a lot of the IPs it has acquired.

No, not at all.

They've been pretty hands-off with their most recent acquisition, but one studio does not a trend make.

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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This (that Bethesda are selling, not that Microsoft are the buyer) isn’t really a surprise. It seems that everything they’ve been doing for a few years now was to align themselves with a sale.

This YouTube video predicting that’s what they were doing springs to mind: https://youtu.be/qJt_i2_vsSw

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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Microsoft is just trying to recreate console lock-in without having to subsidize hardware so much. (1) Microsoft is trying to expand their gaming division, but struggle with first-party games. This acquisition is an acknowledgement that MSFT needs Bethesda creatives. (2) Microsoft's big strategy right now is to build their Xbox ecosystem - they're pushing GamePass, Xcloud, etc. heavily, and trying to become Netflix f…

What's your take on the potential long-term success of Game Pass?

Definitely a winning move. Netflix beat Blockbuster, TiVO, AND cable's on-demand video services with a worse content library and harder UI (initially - those boxes sucked) - because it was cheap, easy, and felt free. GamePass recreates that, at least for casual gamers.

Plus, GamePass locks you in like consoles once did. That stickiness in recurring revenue is hugely valuable in itself, and because it has a network effect (this was basically the reason for the ongoing console wars).

Combine that with cloud gaming, and the lock-in and UX just gets better.

Their main barrier is good content. Thus the splashy buy.

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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I dunno about this. The current consensus of community is that Dota 2 is dying and valve couldn't be bothered doing anything about it. Just cashing in while they can. And Dota 2 is by far their biggest game.

CS:GO is actually their biggest game now, but it does look like Dota 2 is dying. From a business perspective, they don't have any reason to try and save it though. They've lost ~40% of their players over the past 4 years, but are making more money than ever. The in-game tutorials have been unfinished for years, their Dota+ subscription service is all but abandoned (but still bringing in millions of dollars a year), a…

CS GO was abandoned by valve, community picked up the scene by creating their own leagues and tournaments. Only then valve gracefully came back to support CS :(

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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Holy sh!t. Bethesda is huge! Well I was just thinking the other day that Microsoft really doesn't have any first party studio that are really as good as Sony's first party. IMO they didn't release a game 'this' gen that makes picking up a xbox one worth it. This could change that with fallout and doom. Also this allows them to bring the ID tech engine under their stewardship.... I just hope that they don't trash the…

Isn't Minecraft a bigger game than anything Sony makes? It's owned by Microsoft but isn't an xbox exclusive.

It was cross platform before the Microsoft acquisition. I think Minecraft is sort of a special case, it's essentially its own genre.

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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Soon we'll just have Microsoft, Epic, and a conglomeration of EA, Activision, and Ubisoft after Bobby Kotick forces them all to merge. Facebook will bungle up any chance they have of capturing the gaming market after writing a cryptic paragraph about their legal right to request blood samples from all Oculous users in the TOS. Valve will quietly exit software development altogether, and pivot to building custom vanit…

Sure, if you ate McDonald's every day you'd probably think that there are no good restaurants anymore. My top 4 games by playtime in the last few years were Rimworld, Oxygen Not Included, Dwarf Fortress and WoW Classic. Honorable mentions go to Spelunky and Stellaris. It's to everyone's great regret that a single one of these titles was purchased by one of the shitty publishers you mentioned, fortunately it's the one…

The absence of civ6 is lamentable, but then we do only have so much time to find to pursue hobbies like work and careers.

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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Microsoft is just trying to recreate console lock-in without having to subsidize hardware so much. (1) Microsoft is trying to expand their gaming division, but struggle with first-party games. This acquisition is an acknowledgement that MSFT needs Bethesda creatives. (2) Microsoft's big strategy right now is to build their Xbox ecosystem - they're pushing GamePass, Xcloud, etc. heavily, and trying to become Netflix f…

I don’t see how $10/mo is at all profitable with them adding all these AAA games to it.

1 - They'll break the sub out into tiers.

2 - Netflix is around the same price - a big enough market smooths it out.

3 - The press release defines their market as 3B people. I wouldn't be surprised at all if their internal business cases target 1B+ people.

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