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Re: Spotify reportedly fighting with employees about hosting episodes of Joe Rogan

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Post by jjeaff »

s__s wrote: post #313
jjeaff wrote: post #153

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They do cut things out at times. Which is also why they don't love stream it anymore. They needed to be able to cut out certain things. Though I don't know what their criteria is.

That’s not true. The reason they stopped live streaming is because sketchy channels were cutting clips mid stream and re-posting. Essentially pirating the content to make a bunch of cash before they had the opportunity to release the official clips.

Regardless of the reason, Rogan has told guests that they can cut out things if necessary since they don't stream live anymore.

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Post by spiralx »

radmuzom wrote: post #204
reincarnate0x14 wrote: post #151

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This was always the case, it's only that recently you feel it's been extended to your particular issues. At various times in the history of the US specifically, but analogues exist in most other places, you could have been fired or otherwise pariah'ed for: Freely discussing the conditions and rights of laborers Discussing political ideologies like communism Discussing various sects of Christian belief Discussing Non-…

Funny that you and jakelazaroff above are getting downvoted. I have observed that lot of free speech advocates generally get annoyed if someone speaks the truth.

This site has both a lot of the sort of people who "don't see race" and use that to downplay social issues, and people who (irrationally) insist in the primacy of rational thought and view speech as a consequence-free action. Don't expect good or nuanced discussion on the subject.

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Post by DanBC »

mikece wrote: post #58
grapehut wrote: post #48

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Eminem never said that trans-women shouldn't be allowed to compete in womens-MMA fighting.

And Joe is an expert in the field of MMA. He didn’t just say that trans women should not be allowed to fight in women’s MMA but cited medical science to back his opinion. Outside of women’s MMA Joe is all for trans rights but in the case of women’s MMA it’s his opinion that a trans woman will end up literally killing someone born with XX chromosomes who still identifies as female (I don’t know of a less clumsy way to…

> (I don’t know of a less clumsy way to say that which is weird).

Cis-woman.

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Post by dmingod666 »

hervature wrote: post #291
dmingod666 wrote: post #191

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Dude, friendly advice, listen to Infowars all you want, don't take them seriously, its bad for your mental health.

Aside from Rogan's interview, I've never listened to Alex Jones. In fact, the link to his story appears on the first page (last link) on DDG with "joe rogan alex jones removed episodes". Yes, the websites are also fake news outlets. But there's a difference between "fake news" the term. And news that is fake. We shall see if this news turns out to be fake.

Don't know how aware are you about Alex Jones and his theories - Some of them include the government mixing medicines in the water to subdue the population and that is making the frogs gay and so many more fascinating globalist Illuminati bed-time stories.

There is news, there is fake news -- then there is Alex Jones. A category to himself -- he is as tin foil as you can get.. That guy has some serious problems, steer clear.

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Post by foldr »

ALittleLight wrote: post #169
sp332 wrote: post #82

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"They have this agenda," he said, "and this agenda is very ideologically driven that anyone who even thinks they might be trans should be trans, are trans, and the more trans people the better. The more kids that transition the better." https://www.menshealth.com/entertainment/a33391944/joe-rogan... but you can probably find other sources, it's a direct quote.

That might be right or wrong, but I don't see how it's transphobic. If I said Catholic people have an ideological agenda to make more people Catholic, they want to make their kids Catholic, they want to make your kids Catholic, they want to make YOU Catholic - that might be right or wrong, depending on the Catholics, but I don't see how saying it would demonstrate a prejudice against Catholics.

Catholicism is an explicitly evangelical religion. The idea that trans people want to turn everyone trans is a scare story. We used to hear the same scare stories about gay rights activists trying to turn kids gay. Generally, scare stories like this don't come from a good place. If you're saying that someone could be innocently misinformed, then sure, that's possible in principle, but good intentions only go so far. They'd still be spreading damaging misinformation about a highly contentious issue.

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Post by foldr »

foldr wrote: post #325
ALittleLight wrote: post #169

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That might be right or wrong, but I don't see how it's transphobic. If I said Catholic people have an ideological agenda to make more people Catholic, they want to make their kids Catholic, they want to make your kids Catholic, they want to make YOU Catholic - that might be right or wrong, depending on the Catholics, but I don't see how saying it would demonstrate a prejudice against Catholics.

Catholicism is an explicitly evangelical religion. The idea that trans people want to turn everyone trans is a scare story. We used to hear the same scare stories about gay rights activists trying to turn kids gay. Generally, scare stories like this don't come from a good place. If you're saying that someone could be innocently misinformed, then sure, that's possible in principle, but good intentions only go so far.…

(Late correction: I meant to say 'proselytising', not 'evangelical'.)

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Post by schwartzworld »

liability wrote: post #267
schwartzworld wrote: post #252

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> "People shouldn't say mean things" and "People shouldn't have the right to say mean things" are not equivalent statements unless you are an authoritarian. yup, nothing disingenuous about this analysis.

Sarcasm? If you disagree with what you quoted, perhaps you could explain why? Simply saying you disagree doesn't really move the conversation forward, does it? It seems quite obvious to me those are not equivalent statements, but if you think I'm wrong I'm willing to listen to why you think that, if you're willing to explain it.

What's disingenuous is describing hate speech as "mean things". Have you ever actually heard of someone trying to make "saying mean things" illegal? Can you give an example, even if anecdotal?

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Post by antepodius »

oh_sigh wrote: post #282
UncleMeat wrote: post #265

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That's unrelated. Rogan's interviewing process wouldn't be improved by having leftists on. The point is that "we have a guy who points out contradictions" is not enough to produce productive discourse.

Then don't listen to it?

The problem, as always, is that the plebs will listen to it and get the wrong idea.

Our venerable grandfather, of course, is smart enough to recoil from wrongthink; it's the human masses out there he's aiming to keep fed with the Correct Opinions.

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