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The Future Is Decentralized

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Re: The Future Is Decentralized

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post #9

No it is not and it never will be. There is no business model for it. The business models are in centralization and those central points have the money to make an unbeatable user experience. Decentralized solutions can not compete and will thus never gain traction.

When we start colonizing other planets, things will have to be decentralized because latencies will become prohibitively large ...

Re: The Future Is Decentralized

#12

The future is not decentralised because it's far too complicated. Here's an alternative, more practical option to centralisation: let's call it the 'WordPress' model. Here's how it might work: Hosting companies have a standard installation API for server web apps. This lets developers create server web apps that can be installed on any hosting provider that supports that installation API. A simple one-click process.…

What you describe is also referred to as the self-hosted model. I agree with your assessment. Self-hosting can be a powerful model if we can make the server application model easy to use and manage, similarly to how it works on mobile phones. But the shared decentralisation model, aka blockchain, also has a role to play here. Digital identity should be sovereign and this can be modelled well using blockchains. To see more work in this direction check out https://identity.foundation.

Re: The Future Is Decentralized

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Can't anyone still share information using the normal internet? You don't need the blockchain in order to set up a website and start sharing information. Few choose to do this because it is more work than using a centralized system. Using Facebook or twitter is much easier to use. What does the blockchain really change? So far, it doesn't seem to be any easier than sharing information the traditional way.

IMO it's not more work, there just aren't teams of psychologists designing flashy signup forms and apps to make you want to do it.

Re: The Future Is Decentralized

#14
post #8

> Decentralizing the web through new technologies like blockchain and decentralized protocols can ensure that the web remains community-focused and user-oriented, Let's be realistic. A safe-place for anonymous money transactions is never ever going to be community-focused. It may start out community-focused but we all know it is going to end up like 4chan.

4chan is a community oriented place on the Internet just like any other. Just because it doesn't cater to your tastes specifically it doesn't mean it's a negative example of a community.

Re: The Future Is Decentralized

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post #11
post #9

No it is not and it never will be. There is no business model for it. The business models are in centralization and those central points have the money to make an unbeatable user experience. Decentralized solutions can not compete and will thus never gain traction.

When we start colonizing other planets, things will have to be decentralized because latencies will become prohibitively large ...

Cryptocurrencies are a great solution for some reality. It's just not our reality now nor in the near future.

Re: The Future Is Decentralized

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post #11
post #9

No it is not and it never will be. There is no business model for it. The business models are in centralization and those central points have the money to make an unbeatable user experience. Decentralized solutions can not compete and will thus never gain traction.

When we start colonizing other planets, things will have to be decentralized because latencies will become prohibitively large ...

If we start colonizing planets. Anyway, even then it seems quite likely that each individual planet will still be very centralized.

Imagine being a colonist on Mars. It's not like it'll be feasible to homestead in the first few decades, if ever. You depend on centralized government for the very air you breathe. It's the very opposite of living in a decentralized society.

Re: The Future Is Decentralized

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Can't anyone still share information using the normal internet? You don't need the blockchain in order to set up a website and start sharing information. Few choose to do this because it is more work than using a centralized system. Using Facebook or twitter is much easier to use. What does the blockchain really change? So far, it doesn't seem to be any easier than sharing information the traditional way.

I don't know if that strictly goes to what the article was talking about, but nevertheless:

Blockchains can prove that two parties once agreed on something, cheaply. That is remarkably valuable information (of such bricks economies are built). And it is truly remarkable that there is nothing in the blockchain that a government can do about it. Ditto anyone else.

I believe it is financial information and preference data that is difficult to share at the moment and that the article alludes to liberating. For example, donating to Wikileaks was extremely challenging via Paypal and other traditional money handlers. That obviously has both up and downsides.

This is new. I live in an age where my cooperation might be strictly necessary for somebody else to tax me. The practicalities haven't changed much, but the theoretical change is quite profound.

Re: The Future Is Decentralized

#19
post #3

I think one of the more killer features brought to the table is using walletconnect to log into dapps. I can navigate to an app ‘log in’ using my own wallet and it allows me to purchase items without needing to create an account. This is a breath of fresh air compared to modern ecommerce sites that ‘require’ you to send over a truckload of personal information, create a login, verify your email etc just so you can pu…

How does the merchant ship your single item of clothing w/out you giving them your address?

Re: The Future Is Decentralized

#20
post #9

No it is not and it never will be. There is no business model for it. The business models are in centralization and those central points have the money to make an unbeatable user experience. Decentralized solutions can not compete and will thus never gain traction.

what a lack of imagination. You could copy paste your argument changing the nouns and apply it to any open source endeavour.

Of course there is strong resistance from the powers that be, but to claim never is an incredible act of Hubris.

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