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Re: Dream Vendor "Canna_Bars" Sentenced to Prison

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Post by tsimionescu »

x86_64Ubuntu wrote: post #206
1_person wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> (though I think it’s important for a functional society to obey laws, and get them changed if they aren’t working instead of just breaking them based on personal preference) This is an unbelievably privileged position to take. Are you not aware that the country itself was established in the finest tradition of civil disobedience? The declaration of independence was an act of civil disobedience. The end of colonial…

You always hear calls for "civil disobedience" or "non-violence" when it concerns systems that the speaker may not want outright support, but is highly sympathetic to. You never hear anyone say that US should have pursued a path of non-violence during the Cold War, after the attack on Pearl Harbor, or during the War On Terror. In those instances, violence is assuredly the order of the day. But when the villain is the…

The majority of people on Earth and in the US itself would tell you that non-violence would have been preferable to the "War On Terror". All of millions of people who have felt the brunt of the US Cold War would tell you the same - be they peasants in virtually all of South America or Vietnam; or US soldiers sent to die in Vietnam.

Perhaps WWII is an exception to this, but it is absolutely in the minority. Wars of aggression (Cold War, War on Drugs, War on Terrorism) have never improved any part of the world in any way - they cause misery and poverty for the majority for untold generations, no matter what high-minded rhetoric is used to justify them.

Re: Dream Vendor "Canna_Bars" Sentenced to Prison

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Post by tsimionescu »

ubercow13 wrote: post #132
jokethrowaway wrote: post #97

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No, it's the opposite of fascism. It's voluntarism or anarchy. Fascism is a totalitarian authoritarian political doctrine where the state is strong. I want a weak (or, even better, non existent) state and a society based on voluntary transactions and not on taxes taken under the threat of violence.

What's to stop a mafia appearing who takes taxes under threat of violence, if there is no state to stop them? Anarchism always seems like utopic nonsense to me. Something like, 'I don't like being told what to do, so we should get rid of the state and as long as everyone promises not to tell each other what to do, it will be great'. If there is no state, there is a power vacuum. There is a reason why power vacuums ar…

Capitalist anarchy, which is what is described here, is indeed nonsense.

The much more common notion of anarchy, socialist anarchy, actually advocates for smaller societies and more localized leadership (e.g. at the city level). Some role for a kind of state (e.g. an alliance of local micro-states) is often preserved, especially for military and diplomatic purposes.

Re: Dream Vendor "Canna_Bars" Sentenced to Prison

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Post by hunter2_ »

refurb wrote: post #237
hunter2_ wrote: post #92

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I wouldn't be surprised if writing style could also be used. I tend to use certain constructions and vocabulary across many of my comments. Some are under a handle with little or no link to my real identity, and some are quite the opposite. I expect someone could deanonymize the former based on correlation of writing style with the latter.

That's in the indictment too. He misspelled "quality" across several different posts. Alone it's not conclusive, but it's one more piece of evidence linking all of the activity together.

Yes, though I was thinking more about entirely correct writing. Patterns among hay in a haystack, as opposed to a needle.

Re: Dream Vendor "Canna_Bars" Sentenced to Prison

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Post by hendersoon »

antihero wrote: post #2

What a colossal waste of time. Prosecuting someone for selling online something that is illegal in a lot of states. Mindblowing how stupid the war on drugs is.

Per the article, this guy also sold methamphetamine in large quantities on another site, so it isn't just about marijuana.

Re: Dream Vendor "Canna_Bars" Sentenced to Prison

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Post by bromonkey »

umvi wrote: post #138
bunfunton wrote: post #42

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Meth isn’t life destroying poison sorry to inform you. I take 10mg for ADHD a day and it’s saved my life when all other alternatives have failed. I would argue the bad cases you’ve seen are from people with no self control. Why should the government be able to tell you what you can and cannot put into your own body? Better, let people do what they want as long as they don’t hurt anybody else and educate them.

"self control" is a nearly meaningless phrase when used in the same sentence as drugs

Nah mate, you just aren't informed or experienced on this topic.

Re: Dream Vendor "Canna_Bars" Sentenced to Prison

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Post by grumple »

johnnyfaehell wrote: post #248
grumple wrote: post #191

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The word "lots" is what's called a weasel word [1]. 1000 is "lots". Is it a lot if there are a million drug dealers? How does it compare to other crime correlations? Or general rates in the population? Your logic is fallacious. You know what has a 100% correlation with dealing drugs and committing those other crimes? Breathing. Drinking water. Eating. Correlation tells us little. Perhaps it does hint that a disregard…

> The word "lots" is what's called a weasel word [1]. 1000 is "lots". Is it a lot if there are a million drug dealers? How does it compare to other crime correlations? Or general rates in the population? Let's be serious, you and I both know, I meant a high percentile. This is just a bad faith argument made after using an anedote of knowing 12 drug dealers to say a statement about a high percentile of drug dealers wo…

Most drug dealers in this country are small time weed dealers. Usually college kids or recently graduated. These are the drug dealers who are small time and basically never get caught because they aren’t the demographic that drug laws were created to criminalize. So no, you and I seem to know different things.

Selling drugs is cheap, profitable, easy, and relatively low risk if you’re somewhere weed has been decriminalized but not legalized. You think smuggling people and selling weapons to felons is low risk and easy? You think insurance fraud is low risk and easy? That’s an absurd argument to make.

You know what they’ll move into? Selling literally anything else. I’ve seen it a dozen times. “Oh dealing drugs makes good money but it turns out selling artisanal chocolate/soda/nude pics/clothing makes even more money.”

I’ve got to say it seems like this argument comes from a lack of real world experience and a strict adherence to the reports and theories of law enforcement agencies. Contrary to your belief, non-drug crimes do not suddenly spike in areas where drugs are legalized. See: Europe, American states where weed is legal.

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Post by EmilioMartinez »

cnst wrote: post #192

I've always been conscious of fingerprints potentially showing up in the photos. Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't after you. The same thing goes about keys -- it's amazing how people willingly share photos of their keys (with full signature and all) in full view.

Always wondered the same. More so, it baffles me that locksmiths use physical keys to copy new keys, propagating errors in the long run.

Re: Dream Vendor "Canna_Bars" Sentenced to Prison

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Post by umvi »

bromonkey wrote: post #275
umvi wrote: post #138

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"self control" is a nearly meaningless phrase when used in the same sentence as drugs

Nah mate, you just aren't informed or experienced on this topic.

No, I understand that some people can exercise self control with drugs. But there is a certain, non-negligible % of drug users that are physically unable to exercise self control once they've experimented with the drug.

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Post by epakai »

sslalready wrote: post #151
jasoneckert wrote: post #78

What I find the most interesting about this article is that someone was able to be identified using a picture of their fingerprints. Thus, any photos posted online could be scoured for identification information. And with computer vision technologies becoming more mature, it means that regular video footage of people could identify them the same way in seconds or less using a wide variety of different visual traits.…

I’ve reflected on the fact that some makers on YouTube wear gloves and wondered if this is for privacy reasons. I see globes being worn even when they’re not obviously doing anything that risk getting their fingers dirty.

Possibly to hide damaged cuticles, dirty fingernails, or something else unsightly. Comments will harp on just about any flaw. Ben Heck addressed comments about his fingers' condition, but he just offers some sarcasm about them instead of hiding it. Some might resort to gloves.

Re: Dream Vendor "Canna_Bars" Sentenced to Prison

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Post by tha0x5 »

sneak wrote: post #254
gbrown wrote: post #61

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Well, the supply chain for illegal drugs hurts a LOT of people, but that’s because of the illegally. In a world with legal drugs, you’d still want to prosecute someone for giving money to cartels, but there would be much less incentive for people to do so in the first place.

The supply chain is not on trial in this instance, this one person (who did not harm or victimize anyone) is.

This same illogic is used for people who want to defend looking at child porn:

"The person abusing the child is not on trial in this instance, this one person (who did not harm or victimize anyone) is."

More people have died in Mexico and Central America due to the drug war than have died in the war in Afghanistan.

If you buy drugs from a supply chain that involves the cartels, you are indirectly funding organized murder and crime.

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