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Re: Ask HN: Your Favourite HN Comment?

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For me, it's this comment ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224 ) that argued Dropbox wasn't useful and was going to fail. Both the comment and its replies (by Drew at the time when Dropbox wasn't known) really get to me because they remind me to keep an open mind to other people's ideas and have conviction in my own ideas even if there are people who doubt them.

I think there's some comments from me here or on reddit (can't recall) where I'm telling the founders of github that their idea is stupid. I underestimated the needs of the open source community, but honestly I still don't understand why it's such a successful business.

>but honestly I still don't understand why it's such a successful business.

It's the same as any SaaS, who wants to set up their own servers? Sure, you may want to, but think at scale, most people wouldn't, so they pay GitHub to do it for them. There are also a lot of quality of life features such as a better interface for both the technical and non-technical side of a team.

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On what should you be: > This guy has gone to the zoo and interviewed all the animals. The tiger says that the secret to success is to live alone, be well disguised, have sharp claws and know how to stalk. The snail says that the secret is to live inside a solid shell, stay small, hide under dead trees and move slowly around at night. The parrot says that success lies in eating fruit, being alert, packing light, movi…

I will have to agree with the dead comment by @leafboi, it is not that every animal can live harmoniously, indeed every animal is in competition by the laws of natural selection, and each animal can be seen as the outlier in its species. In the case of humans, there may be multiple paths to success, but it may be that many of them lead to failure while producing certain outliers. Unrelatedly, does anyone know why cer…

As human beings, moderators have their own preferences which exist beyond the HN guidelines, and are not meta moderated, except in the aggregate.

When a comment becomes dead, it's because some mods chose to vote it down, and fewer mods choose to revive it. The net effect is an expression of the prevailing culture.

Your question about why this sometimes happens "immediately" is an interesting part of the dynamic.

Re: Ask HN: Your Favourite HN Comment?

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Thanks for sharing this. Right now I'm burnt out beyond words, having delivered a phase of a huge project, followed by upper management actions that make me feel extremely devalued and dehumanized. I've already written a list of personal development tasks for the three weeks' leave ahead - I need to up-skill, then find a new employer - which I'll restructure into little wins.

You should prob just completely take a break during the 3 weeks. Go hiking, biking, etc and let your brain rewire so that you're not in a flight or fight mode. Something like "just walking hard for 5 hours gets me to the top of the mountain" and then you'll be so fresh after 3 weeks of that. Work won't seem as stressful or important in life.

It's amazing what a bit of exercise and a head clear of problems to solve can do for you. In my experience, it's unfortunately the case(for me at least) that the harder and longer you push before you burnout scales linearly with the length of the break you'll need to take in order to recover.

I learned this lesson the hard way and ended having to take a multiple year hiatus from even looking at a text editor. I wouldn't be surprised if it was in a way a form of PTSD; for a long while, even thinking about programming elevated my heart rate. I ended up working as a bike mechanic during that time away, and the combination of a low stakes environment and working with my hands did my mental health a lot of good.

Re: Ask HN: Your Favourite HN Comment?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will have to agree with the dead comment by @leafboi, it is not that every animal can live harmoniously, indeed every animal is in competition by the laws of natural selection, and each animal can be seen as the outlier in its species. In the case of humans, there may be multiple paths to success, but it may be that many of them lead to failure while producing certain outliers. Unrelatedly, does anyone know why cer…

As human beings, moderators have their own preferences which exist beyond the HN guidelines, and are not meta moderated, except in the aggregate. When a comment becomes dead, it's because some mods chose to vote it down, and fewer mods choose to revive it. The net effect is an expression of the prevailing culture. Your question about why this sometimes happens "immediately" is an interesting part of the dynamic.

Seems like the sibling comment also by leafboi shows that HN automatically makes dead, accounts with negative karma.

Re: Ask HN: Your Favourite HN Comment?

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User mikekchar on the value of ideas: My advice is to lower the value of ideas. A lot of time people think, "If only I had a good idea I would be successful". You will see other people saying things like, "Buy my good idea!". But really, good ideas are a dime a dozen. Good ideas, bad ideas... it actually doesn't make much difference. What makes the difference is execution and timing. For things that take a long time,…

the founder of 'peloton' is an epitome of this, becoming a billionaire over the course of the pandemic.

https://www.businessinsider.com/peloton-founder-ceo-john-fol...

Re: Ask HN: Your Favourite HN Comment?

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> You have more negotiating power than you think. That assumes that their manager (1) is aware of how hard it is to find a good programmer, and (2) is rational.

If either of those conditions is satisfied then imo it's time to go. Who wants to work for an irrational manager? (actual lol)

Agreed. If you can't negotiate where you at, then start the negotiations somewhere else.

Re: Ask HN: Your Favourite HN Comment?

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"The contrarian dynamic" by dang, from around a month ago. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24215601 > The "contrarian dynamic" is that HN threads (and internet comments generally) are largely propelled by people making objections. Cunningham's Law touches on this [1]. The objections come in waves. In the earliest stage of a thread, they tend to be rapid negative reactions to the article. It's not that these are…

I'm not sure if I'm surprised that dang didn't touch on to mention downvotes as an even more rapid "contrarian dynamic" mechanism; wouldn't it be nice if downvotes had a little more friction, effort required for the action - like qualitative text from the downvoter as to why a comment is being downvoted to then allow OP the opportunity to clarify or expand on their comment - "to be more reflective and therefore bette…

This has been discussed many times and it's not a good idea - it adds friction to the discussion, more than anything else. The threads would be full of pointless meta.

The fundamental problem is that getting downvoted feels kinda bad - nobody ever asks for explanatory notes on upvotes. It's reasonable to wonder whether getting downvoted feels, say, too bad too soon and if there are UI ways to address that. But it's worth remembering that for downvoting to actually work, it has to feel at least somewhat bad. It's going to feel somewhat bad with or without notes from others about why they thought you ought to feel a little bit bad.

Re: Ask HN: Your Favourite HN Comment?

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This one about whether designers are crazy because the OP didn't understand why designers would care about minute details in their work. It is because attention to detail creates superlative work. It is similar to why premature optimization isn't necessarily bad for engineers.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5002262

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No, designers aren't crazy. You just don't understand a very fundamental concept of design. It even applies to engineering. It's okay—many people have the same frustrations as you do.

But those who care about the details achieve truly high quality results overall. It extends to all areas of the design, not just to the parts you can't see.

In the movie "Who Framed Roger Rabbit," there's a scene in a dark room where Roger Rabbit (an animated character) flies across the room, knocks a hanging lamp around, and the lighting becomes so dynamic that all the shadows move around including the animated character's shadow. Here's the scene in question: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EUPwsD64GI

This was such a small detail that it would have been forgivable if the animators had left it out entirely: if they had not moved the lamp, kept the shadow steady, no one would have really noticed the difference. It would have been 100 times easier to animate and the effect wouldn't really have been that different.

But they did it anyway. The term was later coined, and "bump the lamp" is used throughout Disney (and probably other organizations) to mean something akin to "go the extra mile"—but I see it as having a special significance to design.

You're right, most people won't notice. By that logic, you could cut corners a lot of other places too. You could be lax about button colors matching exactly, or per-pixel sharpness on the map and buttons. No one would probably notice.

But if you go for every detail like it was the most important detail, you have the possibility of reaching a level of design quality that is superlative, and some people will notice. Others will not notice directly, but will see that the piece exudes style and quality subconsciously, due to the attention to small details. If you carry this into other areas of your work—programming, customer service, market strategy, marketing, and more—then you have a chance to create something of true quality.

If you don't pay attention to detail at that level, well, you might have the chance to actually get something done. Yes, it's a balance, like everything else. But you have to know that it won't be quite as good, and understand that yes, you are sacrificing something, even if you can't see it.

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Re: Ask HN: Your Favourite HN Comment?

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I wonder if there's any value in having a post to HN be, in effect, a "Draft", with a timeout of (say) half an hour. You write it up, but you have time to reconsider and edit before it "goes live" and you're (at least psychologically) committed. Perhaps you have to come back after half an hour and officially approve it? This is starting to sound like work :-)

I think this is a great idea, with one issue -- it seems to me (and I haven't looked at this quantitatively, it's just an impression) that later comments sometimes get buried, so there's an incentive to comment sooner rather than later.

I guess I figured that everyone would be delayed, so the relative posting time would remain the same.

Re: Ask HN: Your Favourite HN Comment?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if there's any value in having a post to HN be, in effect, a "Draft", with a timeout of (say) half an hour. You write it up, but you have time to reconsider and edit before it "goes live" and you're (at least psychologically) committed. Perhaps you have to come back after half an hour and officially approve it? This is starting to sound like work :-)

I think they already do this, with the delay setting in your profile.

Interesting... I see the "delay" setting, is that it? I don't see any documentation, alas...
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