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This post really highlights the needs for collapsible threads. I'd be very interested in discussing more about asset forfeiture at large, but it's ridiculous to have to wade through all the Liberty Dollar bullshit in order to do that.

Here you go: http://alexander.kirk.at/2010/02/16/collapsible-threads-for-...

Thank you so much sir. That is my #1 issue with HN

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> you seem to hold the Constitution as the preeminent law of the land To the contrary, my point is this document is ambiguous and subject to interpretation. So, who interprets it? The judges of course! The very people this document is supposed to protect me from. Seems a bit circular. Fast forward to year 2012, and judges say it's OK to seize domain names. How can the constitution defend my right to free speech and a…

Fast forward to year 2012, and judges say it's OK to seize domain names. Then it's Constitutional by definition. Congress, however, can pass a law amending the Constitution to prohibit the seizure of domain names. Then it's no longer Constitutional. Do they not teach the three branches of government or checks and balances in middle school anymore?

Congress cannot amend the constitution as easily as it can pass a law. The States have to agree to it as well.

Re: FBI seized PokerStars.com, FullTiltPoker.com, UB.com,... domain names

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Over the line? Why did they have to bribe a bank to accept their business? That's crazy! The liberty to conduct everyday business is the most important liberty we have. It's what puts bread on the table. The fact that they had to bribe a bank to open and use an account is really really sick.

Online gambling is illegal in the United States. It is, by _definition_, not "everyday business."

And that's part of the problem.

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Fast forward to year 2012, and judges say it's OK to seize domain names. Then it's Constitutional by definition. Congress, however, can pass a law amending the Constitution to prohibit the seizure of domain names. Then it's no longer Constitutional. Do they not teach the three branches of government or checks and balances in middle school anymore?

Congress cannot amend the constitution as easily as it can pass a law. The States have to agree to it as well.

Yeah. It's the Constitution. It's supposed to be hard to change.

Re: FBI seized PokerStars.com, FullTiltPoker.com, UB.com,... domain names

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Beautiful: WARNING I'm surprised they don't have text and audio for ADA compliance.

I was really hoping there was a banner{1-6}.jpg

those are probably for child porn, drugs etc.

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Cashing out is not working for me...

They process cashouts through intermediaries, essentially laundering the cashout money. This is one of the main crimes they are being charged with. In addition to the domain names, the FBI also seized all of the funds they could that were being used in handling cashouts.

Yep all these big poker players are going to go down for years for the money laundering. The last time I deposited for my brother I noticed they were using a florist as the merchant. There must have been so much credit card fraud that went unreported because they didn't want to attract attention to themselves.

I cashed out using other players as intermediaries and did it myself for other players as well. There was a well established exchange rate and cost in cashing out through other players, so in a way we were also part of the money laundering problem.

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"The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behavior, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services a Compensation which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office."

Right. Where's the bit about determining the constitutionality of laws? It's not spelled out

Just read Marbury v. Madison. I have no more time for a 5th grade civics lesson.

Re: FBI seized PokerStars.com, FullTiltPoker.com, UB.com,... domain names

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The indictment from the DOJ with a list of the charges: http://www.justice.gov/usao/nys/pressreleases/April11/schein...

Fascinating. This contains some pretty damning charges, if true.

the UIEGA outlaws 'internet gambling' so the case will be based on if poker is considered gambling, which the supreme court has already found to not be the case when California attempted to pass laws to legalize card rooms back in the 70s

A lot harder to avoid the money laundering charges, but they could argue that they had to process payments in that way because the banks wouldn't accept them because of an unjust UIEGA law

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If the Bitcoin client cannot connect to the IRC channel, it uses an in-built list of initial nodes to connect to the P2P network. Shutting down the IRC channel via a court order wouldn't shut down the Bitcoin network. You could harvest IP addresses from the IRC channel, but you could also do that by running the client and noting down which peers you connect to. Unless you're running behind Tor or I2P, it's not hard t…

This helps some I guess, but I don't think it'd be that hard to take out all or almost all of the hardcoded initialization nodes if they're able to get IRC taken down, too. btc really needs a more robust method to locate peers. IRC with a few hardcoded fallback nodes is not very decentralized imo.

Hardcoded nodes are only needed if that's your first start. After that bitcoin client collects a databases of nodes, listening to "addr" messages from the network. On the next restarts, it uses addresses from that database one by one.

And there are about 300 hardcoded nodes right now from different countries.

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