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Dream Vendor "Canna_Bars" Sentenced to Prison

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Re: Dream Vendor "Canna_Bars" Sentenced to Prison

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What people put into their bodies is their own business.

No. We live in a society. If I'm expected to help pick up the pieces when you self-destruct, it's absolutely my business.

Except that criminalization doesn't help anyone pick up the pieces, at least as criminalization goes in the us today. There's also lots of ways to self destruct that aren't criminalized.

Re: Dream Vendor "Canna_Bars" Sentenced to Prison

#32

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What people put into their bodies is their own business.

Not if it results in them becoming a burden on society, both financially and socially.

Does it necessarily? Was Paul Erdös a burden on society, both financially and socially? Are people who have handicaps because of sporting accidents not a financial burden on society, should we outlaw Snowboarding?

Re: Dream Vendor "Canna_Bars" Sentenced to Prison

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I can partially understand that point of view for marijuana (though I think it’s important for a functional society to obey laws, and get them changed if they aren’t working instead of just breaking them based on personal preference). But the guy had been selling methamphetamine too, which is life destroying poison. Our government provides costly services for people who are incapable of taking care of themselves, and…

Sure, but purely from the side of pragmatism, throwing people in jail isn't effective either. Treating them compassionately and giving them help for their problem works much better.

Also imagine saying the US has social safety nets.

Re: Dream Vendor "Canna_Bars" Sentenced to Prison

#34
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What a colossal waste of time. Prosecuting someone for selling online something that is illegal in a lot of states. Mindblowing how stupid the war on drugs is.

I can partially understand that point of view for marijuana (though I think it’s important for a functional society to obey laws, and get them changed if they aren’t working instead of just breaking them based on personal preference). But the guy had been selling methamphetamine too, which is life destroying poison. Our government provides costly services for people who are incapable of taking care of themselves, and…

> But the guy had been selling methamphetamine too, which is life destroying poison.

Time to arrest the liquor store owners?

Re: Dream Vendor "Canna_Bars" Sentenced to Prison

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What a colossal waste of time. Prosecuting someone for selling online something that is illegal in a lot of states. Mindblowing how stupid the war on drugs is.

He also had a prior felony, sold meth, sold Xanax, and had an Uzi. Not someone you’d want to date your daughter.

The Uzi was a semi-automatic. It wouldn't be any more dangerous than your typical Glock, but would be bigger and heavier.

He's still a felon carrying a gun which is bad, but it's not worse than any other gun.

Re: Dream Vendor "Canna_Bars" Sentenced to Prison

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post #2

What a colossal waste of time. Prosecuting someone for selling online something that is illegal in a lot of states. Mindblowing how stupid the war on drugs is.

I can partially understand that point of view for marijuana (though I think it’s important for a functional society to obey laws, and get them changed if they aren’t working instead of just breaking them based on personal preference). But the guy had been selling methamphetamine too, which is life destroying poison. Our government provides costly services for people who are incapable of taking care of themselves, and…

Civil disobedience is the strongest way of bringing change.

We've used it as a tactic for decades and it's been the only reliable force for change.

There is no reason for your representative to listen to you in America unless you throw a wrench in the gears.

Re: Dream Vendor "Canna_Bars" Sentenced to Prison

#38
post #10

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I strongly suspected that is what they did too. Got to wonder if they used the EXIF data to find him - linking photos of the pot and other social media/etc public shots, then used the fingerprints as parallel construction.

It was interesting the amount of redactions in the documents and the plea deal, as well as law enforcement operating as the launderer. I, too, thought parallel construction.

Well they also mention in the article that the drug dealer also sent bitcoin to a money laundering service run by Homeland Security, so his OpSec was probably as leaky as a noodle strainer.

Re: Dream Vendor "Canna_Bars" Sentenced to Prison

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post #2

What a colossal waste of time. Prosecuting someone for selling online something that is illegal in a lot of states. Mindblowing how stupid the war on drugs is.

He also had a prior felony, sold meth, sold Xanax, and had an Uzi. Not someone you’d want to date your daughter.

I guess the thing is, if drugs were legal the chances are lots of drug dealers would be doing some other crime. There are obivously drug dealers that sell just to pay for their own drug usage. But there are lots and lots are in it for the money and choose crime because it's easy to get into.

Re: Dream Vendor "Canna_Bars" Sentenced to Prison

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The amount of resources that the US federal government will use to pursue ridiculously long sentences (that frequently involve torture[1]) against people who did not victimize a single person is absolutely insane to me. The prohibition on the possession and sale of drugs must come to an end, and weapons charges should never, ever be brought against anyone who didn't use weapons to commit a crime or otherwise perpetra…

I personally want drug-dealing gun-wielding ex-felons to be put in prison. Plus he only got 5 years, which isn't a long sentence in the US.
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