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Re: Netgear Firmware Requires Online Registration

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Razer has done something similar with their peripherals. I remember buying a Razer keyboard that I later realized required an online account and some Synapse software to configure in any meaningful way. Quickest return I ever made. Razer's privacy policy is dicey and then there's this[0] which inspires loads of confidence.

[0]: https://www.pcmag.com/news/razer-accidentally-exposed-custom...

Re: Netgear Firmware Requires Online Registration

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post #32

My new clothes washer has an app. It requires access to location, and phone settings or the app closes by design. I don't think this stuff stops without legislation.

Buy a different washer? Send that one back? Don't make it illegal to fucking build IOT devices...

Re: Netgear Firmware Requires Online Registration

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post #34

(ITT: Plenty of comments from folks who clearly didn't bother to RTFA.) This appears to be for one specific product, a "smart cloud switch" [0] (which comes with a "1-Year Insight Subscription"). I don't see anything to indicate that the product registration requirement applies to any of their other products.

The firmware says you can't access the local browser UI. Insight management is for the online management UI. Even if you don't pay for insight, you should be able to access your switch locally without needing Netgear's permission.

According the the relevant Netgear Knowledge Base article[0], config file uploads and downloads are supported without registration.

I'd expect (I do not own one of these devices) that configuration without restriction can be done by uploading a modified config file.

Perhaps someone who owns a NETGEAR Smart Managed Pro Switch could chime in to confirm or refute that.

[0] https://kb.netgear.com/000061174

Re: Netgear Firmware Requires Online Registration

#64

Razer has done something similar with their peripherals. I remember buying a Razer keyboard that I later realized required an online account and some Synapse software to configure in any meaningful way. Quickest return I ever made. Razer's privacy policy is dicey and then there's this[0] which inspires loads of confidence. [0]: https://www.pcmag.com/news/razer-accidentally-exposed-custom...

Razer Synapse has removed that requirement now, you can use local guest account without registering.

Re: Netgear Firmware Requires Online Registration

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What brand? So I know what to avoid in the future.

LG

That's really disappointing as LG has been my go to brand for many of my appliance purchases including a washer and dryer a few years ago.

Re: Netgear Firmware Requires Online Registration

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post #57

I was gonna buy a new DOCSIS 3.1 netgear modem for my gigabit service. Guess I won't be doing that now. I'm tired of this type of bullshit. It's exactly why I'm leaning really heavily towards Mikrotik for all of my networking gear at home. These types of devices are user hostile, bad for the environment, and set a precedent for a type of world we shouldn't want to live in.

There's really no better choice than Arris SURFboard if you want a DOCSIS bridge that just sits there and works all the time.

LOL. NO.

Arris (formerly Motorola) modems have a overheating reliability issue. Especially the Surfboard ones you like. SB6666

Go search online. You'll see.

I've had a number of them do this, and so I avoid their stuff.

Re: Netgear Firmware Requires Online Registration

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post #2

> You can login and access all features through the local browser UI 3 times without registering the switch through your netgear.com account. How generous, for a device that people buy (not rent) from them, and pay actual money for (not receive for free). And apparently Netgear didn't even feel the need to bother including any contrived excuse as to why this is being introduced. What a time to be alive.

I wonder how long until this gets hacked, and someone releases a cracked firmware with this idiocy removed. Clearly, the functionality is already there if it can be accessed "3 times". This is the dark side of the "update culture" --- forcing you to take all the things you don't want along with the bug fixes. Aided by dire security warnings of not updating, it's a perfect way to achieve control over your userbase.

You can probably install tomato, ddwrt, or openwrt.

Re: Netgear Firmware Requires Online Registration

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post #57

I was gonna buy a new DOCSIS 3.1 netgear modem for my gigabit service. Guess I won't be doing that now. I'm tired of this type of bullshit. It's exactly why I'm leaning really heavily towards Mikrotik for all of my networking gear at home. These types of devices are user hostile, bad for the environment, and set a precedent for a type of world we shouldn't want to live in.

There's really no better choice than Arris SURFboard if you want a DOCSIS bridge that just sits there and works all the time.

The Arris box I currently have is a PITA to use. It takes several seconds to navigate between pages and its extremely illogical. I was just going to see if I can flash it with Openwrt or dd-wrt because it's just unusable.

Re: Netgear Firmware Requires Online Registration

#69
When I first encountered netgear hardware, it ran far hotter than any other equipment. When I had a five port switch that was so hot I could nearly burn myself touching it, I stopped buying their gear.

Are they still the laggard in this respect, or have they gotten better?

Re: Netgear Firmware Requires Online Registration

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am also in the market for a docsis 3.1 modem. What are you going for?

Well, I'm running a SB6190 right now. I guess I'm going to go with either an SB8200 or a motorolla MB8600. One thing I like about the SB8200 is that if I ever go back to running a "business" connection at home I can have a second IP assigned to the second WAN port it has. I also plan on modifying the modem to fit into my network rack without a shelf like so: https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/ft579e/finally_go…

Be aware the SB8200 runs a Puma chipset. For all I know modern versions of this chipset on modems are OK now, but I have a headache that will probably never going away trying to work around latency and DOS issues with one of these in a situation where I couldn't change out the DOCSIS modem for reasons that were out of my control.

It's in my "never touch again for any reason" bucket now as a result.

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