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Re: FBI seized PokerStars.com, FullTiltPoker.com, UB.com,... domain names

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Post by maratd »

vessenes wrote: post #258

If the press release is true, these guys are going away for a long time. They allegedly bribed the owner of a US bank with cash and allegedly purchased 30% of the bank in exchange for the bank allowing them to circumvent US money laundering and anti-gambling laws. There's a lot of civil liberty discussion in this thread, but I think this is actually a fascinating story about the linkage points between the internet an…

Over the line? Why did they have to bribe a bank to accept their business? That's crazy! The liberty to conduct everyday business is the most important liberty we have. It's what puts bread on the table.

The fact that they had to bribe a bank to open and use an account is really really sick.

Re: FBI seized PokerStars.com, FullTiltPoker.com, UB.com,... domain names

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Post by mike_esspe »

weavejester wrote: post #249
cookiecaper wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bitcoin is in for it as soon as it gains any reasonable traction. The government is not going to be happy about that at all. Fortunately, btc is a peer-to-peer network and should theoretically be hard to shut down. I doubt it's actually hard to shut down since the client gets its list of peers from the user list in an automatically and transparently joined IRC channel (if I understand correctly). Heh. I think, howeve…

If the Bitcoin client cannot connect to the IRC channel, it uses an in-built list of initial nodes to connect to the P2P network. Shutting down the IRC channel via a court order wouldn't shut down the Bitcoin network. You could harvest IP addresses from the IRC channel, but you could also do that by running the client and noting down which peers you connect to. Unless you're running behind Tor or I2P, it's not hard t…

I don't think, that prosecuting of programmers will be unsuccessful. I won't be surprised, if Gavin's programming will be described as yet another "unique form of domestic terrorism".

Probably original bitcoin author remained anonymous for the fear of government's retaliation.

Re: FBI seized PokerStars.com, FullTiltPoker.com, UB.com,... domain names

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Post by die_sekte »

llimllib wrote: post #245
lawnchair_larry wrote: post #188

The hijacked DNS has not propagated everywhere yet. Mine are still working. If anyone has last minute business to do on these sites, such as cashing out before the FBI steals your money, add these to your hosts file: $ host pokerstars.com pokerstars.com has address 77.87.179.116 pokerstars.com mail is handled by 20 mx20.pokerstars.com. $ host absolutepoker.com absolutepoker.com has address 66.212.244.175 absolutepoke…

The FBI press release[1] says that they've shut down all the sites' bank accounts too, so you're unlikely to be able to pull your money out. I selfishly hope they go after everybody with money on any of those sites, because it might generate more outrage than just the domain name seizures. [1]: http://www.fbi.gov/newyork/press-releases/2011/manhattan-u.s...

It's unlikely that these sites had major bank accounts in the US. And it's unlikely that the FBI got $TAXHAVEN to shut down their bank accounts. I wonder what is happening here.

Re: FBI seized PokerStars.com, FullTiltPoker.com, UB.com,... domain names

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Post by ynniv »

dia80 wrote: post #267
nika wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I won't attempt to argue that the Liberty Dollar wasn't a misguided enterprise. Even when the law is on your side, the fact that the government controls the courts assures that you'll never get a fair trial. You're misunderstanding the constitution and what the "right to create currency" means. There are many currencies in circulation, and there have been many state and even private currencies over the years. Even to…

I listened to a lecture by the author of "The Creature from Jekyll Island" where he made some outrageous claims about the ownership of the Fed. I was trading US Govt. bond futures at the time and we went to some pains to understand the federal reserve system and to say he erred in fact is being generous. It was full of slavering nonsense, often with anti semetic overtones. As a side point paper money is obviously ext…

I haven't read "The Creature from Jekyll Island," but I have seen some good citations. It's probably better taken as an exposition of the motives of private central banking than an argument for a gold standard. The complication in US history comes from a private central banking cartel (the Federal Reserve) using the departure from a gold standard to their own profit. Through this (naive) lens, returning to a gold standard would help to keep monetary tricks in check.

Any modern currency reform should instead concentrate on public banking with a Fiat currency. This combination allows for controlled market expansion, with the everyday banking profits being distributed across the commonwealth. It should be noted that this would have no affect on the profits of investment banking, and would not require any substantial change to our current US Dollar economy.

Re: FBI seized PokerStars.com, FullTiltPoker.com, UB.com,... domain names

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Post by die_sekte »

vukk wrote: post #271
die_sekte wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm using .is from now on. Sure, it's more expensive, but there are no fucking "domainers" there – even two letter domains are still available. And I have a hard time thinking of something Iceland would shut down (except for child pornography, obviously).

I tried to register a two-letter domain with few registrars found by googling: it seems that one isn't allowed to register a two-letter .is domain anymore; a very common policy in domain names.

That seems odd. I just registered one a few days ago… (fj.is).

Also you can register domains directly at isnic.

Re: FBI seized PokerStars.com, FullTiltPoker.com, UB.com,... domain names

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Post by thaumaturgy »

BrandonM wrote: post #286

Did anyone happen to cache the IP address for fulltiltpoker.com? I'd like to add it to /etc/hosts so that I can at least connect to the client and get a screenshot of my balance.

91.211.98.20; it's posted abovethread.
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