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FWIW, highest recommendation for Philosophy Tube and ContraPoints. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_Tube https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ContraPoints If you want to learn about something, go to the source. I'm now +50/yo (SWM) and have had out LGBTQ friends, family, schoolmates, coworkers most of my life. One of my cousins did gender reassignment 30 years ago. On one hand I can't believe we're still talking abo…
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What bothers me here is this pattern of personal destruction. It seems that certain people have somehow been declared "unpersons". The tactic is to develop a list of the 6 or so worst-sounding things they've ever done, always phrased in the shortest and most inflammatory way and devoid of any context or later explanations that might mitigate how bad they are. Then, any time that person's name comes up, a crowd of peo…
I understand your message and don't disagree, but I think choosing Alex Jones as an example for this message is crazy given that he has literally made his life's work giving a vocal platform to inflammatory content.
However .. this quote from H.L.Mencken:
> “For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all.”
I know we're not talking about laws here (for the most part) but the principle applies.
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I like him, I'm supporting his idea of giving anyone the right to express their ideas. Therefore, I'm interested in the people that also have their concerns about his shows and Spotify's business decisions and they must be heard/read, why are you intolerant to other views and want to censor them by suggesting people to turn their heads? That sounds like canceling to me and btw I don't want to cancel anybody.
A suggestion to ignore something is not censorship. You are conflating speech with the actual censorship of speech. Is this a George Orwell parody account?
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If sensible people are immune to racial and ethnic hatred, then why have we seen it all over the place throughout history. People should have seen right through Blood Libel and not massacred all those innocent jewish people, right? Of course not. Media and narratives matter. Fascism has succeeded in the past at murdering millions of people. There is no fundamental reason why it couldn't happen again.
Of course media narrative matters! especially if you control what can be said and only say that one thing. And people go used to this and assume that if all official media is singing the same tune there is something fishy. I'm arguing that total deplatforming (not just effective criticism, I'm talking about total deplatforming) backfires. Letting people talking about things even if we don't like them, doesn't mean su…
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Does the assistant apply the same rigor to Rogan’s claims?
This is not a journalistic podcast but casual conversations podcast. He is a comedian afterall. They google things up and Rogan call people on BS when they contradict themselves, but they are not always right and they fall for some BS themselves.
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Can't see Rogan agreeing to any type of content moderation. It baffles me when people think it's acceptable to throw freedom of speech out the window just because someone is offended.
You have the privilege of being boring. When you start getting beaten and murdered by people practicing that free speech, you might change your tune.
Diversity is good because you get many opinions from many perspectives. It fails once you start selectively picking and choosing which ones you deem worthy.
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Now I don't know what this was like previously, but nowadays one of the most common travel advice for vacations in the US is "Do not talk about politics with Americans. It's not a good topic for dinner conversation over there." Make of that what you will. Now what I've been wondering after hearing that advice multiple times is: What do Americans talk about at dinner and other occasions? Because here political issues…
Americans still talk about politics over dinner. This advice is more about protecting Europeans from an uncomfortable experience on vacation because of exposure to political views they will find objectionable, than about some fundamental inability to talk about politics in the U.S.
Though calling political views you disagree with "objectionable" as in "offensive" is starting on the wrong foot already. You can't convince someone of your POV by acting offended.
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But they'll find a way to talk to like minded people; and then you'll be surprised how many of them there are. BTW, who are those millions you want to protect? Are you afraid otherwise sensible people will be infected by some opinions expressed on media? Isn't this a bit paternalistic? It's better to fight the enemy in the open field; let's have people talk and show who they are and what they actually mean by what th…
If sensible people are immune to racial and ethnic hatred, then why have we seen it all over the place throughout history. People should have seen right through Blood Libel and not massacred all those innocent jewish people, right? Of course not. Media and narratives matter. Fascism has succeeded in the past at murdering millions of people. There is no fundamental reason why it couldn't happen again.
Always interesting that stifling the fascists and Nazis is so popular* but no one ever mentions the ongoing need to silence the communists, who are in the same "ideology with a 7-figure body count" category. Why is that?
*Also in thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24515338
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Wrong my issue is with the recent liberal trend that a humans race, creed, sexual orientation, religious preference, outward appearance, etc are an individuals defining characteristic. And if you don't conform to the bucket they want to place you based on that identity they have created for you that you will be cancelled. It's extremely polarizing and destabilizing to society.
These things are literally things which define you as a person, though. Of course there's more, but what makes you think that these things don't define a person? I also don't get the "You have to fit in a bucket" theory. What's an example you've experienced?
Straight from the mouth of Joe Biden: "If you don't know whether to vote for me or Trump you ain't black." Yeah, because a near-80yo white man is obviously the final arbiter of my ethnic identity if I don't conform to his politics.
I’m curious what his contract with them stipulates on these matters. As for the employees, they could contact Rogan and either ask to come on the show to discuss what they find so offensive. Joe will talk to anyone, let them have their say and explain their point of view. Arguing to censor his episode history only sends the message that Spotify isn’t a platform for intellectual curiosity and free speech.
Can't see Rogan agreeing to any type of content moderation. It baffles me when people think it's acceptable to throw freedom of speech out the window just because someone is offended.