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Airbnb REQUIRES recording you call but if you want to record they REFUSE call

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Re: Airbnb REQUIRES recording you call but if you want to record they REFUSE call

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Are you in a two-party consent state [0]? If not, you can legally record the conversation without informing them. I record all phone interactions with corporations by default. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_call_recording_laws#...

How do you record the calls automatically? Do you have some app or plugin to do this conveniently?

I just use an Android call recording app. I enable it before I call customer support lines, and leave it off otherwise.

Re: Airbnb REQUIRES recording you call but if you want to record they REFUSE call

#12

Every time someone tells me they are recording my call for {quality, customer care, whatever} purposes, I tell them I'm also recording the call and pause to start recording the call. I get hung up on a lot.

Often it is a robot that says that, do the robots hang up or do you wait for a human?

Re: Airbnb REQUIRES recording you call but if you want to record they REFUSE call

#14
When you say you want to record you are asking for a legal document. Wanting low wage ill trained employees who have difficulties communicating to say things in a way that passes muster for a legal department is expecting a lot of a phone call. I’d blame a litigious society for preventing your record keeping.

Re: Airbnb REQUIRES recording you call but if you want to record they REFUSE call

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you record the calls automatically? Do you have some app or plugin to do this conveniently?

I just use an Android call recording app. I enable it before I call customer support lines, and leave it off otherwise.

Which app, and what Android version? Do you use a rooted device? The current Android version disabled access to call audio and broke all apps. Have they re-enabled them since?

Re: Airbnb REQUIRES recording you call but if you want to record they REFUSE call

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What follows works 99% of the times with airbnb:

Customer service representative: "For training purposes this call is being recorded. Are you okay with it?"

Airbnb member: "Well, you know if you feel comfortable that we record this call for quality purposes, I'm totally fine with it, no worries."

CSR:"Haha, sure I am. I just have to ask, you know."

AM: "Sure, me too, it's important to me that you're comfortable with it, too. So... here's the issue why I'm calling..."

Re: Airbnb REQUIRES recording you call but if you want to record they REFUSE call

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post #6
post #4

Are you in a two-party consent state [0]? If not, you can legally record the conversation without informing them. I record all phone interactions with corporations by default. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_call_recording_laws#...

If the corporation notifies you that you are being recorded, then that is also the consent you need to record them. Why do you need to give them notice? They already notified you. Where is it in law that stipulates that it matters who's doing the recording?

This is an interesting point, some jurisdictions may indeed only require the notification in an ambiguous way, so regardless of whether it’s 2 way recording or 1 way it may be covered.

Though this raises the question of whether companies that don’t accept 2 way recording but mandate 1 way recordings to their advantage are companies you should do business with.

Re: Airbnb REQUIRES recording you call but if you want to record they REFUSE call

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post #16

What follows works 99% of the times with airbnb: Customer service representative: "For training purposes this call is being recorded. Are you okay with it?" Airbnb member: "Well, you know if you feel comfortable that we record this call for quality purposes, I'm totally fine with it, no worries." CSR:"Haha, sure I am. I just have to ask, you know." AM: "Sure, me too, it's important to me that you're comfortable with…

Instead of saying "we record this call", why not just replace it with "this call is being recorded"?

Seems that little bit more sneaky!

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