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How many people from this administration ended up in jail? And how many from the last? You can feel whatever you want, but the math isn’t in your favor.

How many people were killed by wars started in the previous administration? I'll let you ponder on that.

Which wars exactly?

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Most likely because the founding fathers didn't expect the justices to be split on party lines. They were intended to be impartial judges ruling on a limited set of federal laws.

I would assume also because people also just didn't live as long back then. Life was in general a 20 year term. Average life span in 1800 of 50 years. Today it's 78.6. https://clickamericana.com/topics/health-medicine/us-life-ex... https://www.everydayhealth.com/senior-health/what-life-expec... Those probably aren't the best places for me to get numbers, but I think they're good enough for a rough example of what I m…

Life expectancy at birth was low because many people died in childhood, bringing down the average. Those who survived childhood lived much longer lives.

I used the historical list of US Supreme Court justices [0] and averaged the lifespan of the first 20 justices. The average was 67 years. Maximum was 91 [1].

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_justices_of_the_Suprem...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Duvall

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> They are the most conniving and soulless individuals that exist The Trump Republicans are far better in terms of war crimes. Not "better in terms of war crimes" is some sort of crowning achievement, but its hard to get much lower than srone striking Americans on foreign soil. To say Trump isn't an improvement over Busch just boggles my mind.

> its hard to get much lower than srone striking Americans on foreign soil. Trump killed this American on foreign soil: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nawar_al-Awlaki

There's a lot more horrible things happening in Yemen and absolutely nobody in the West cares. But everything is political nowadays, anything that's related to Trump gets high coverage, while there's probably somewhere like 200 000 people who have died so far in this ongoing conflict and it barely gets noticed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yemeni_Civil_War_(2014%E2%80%9...

You gotta love the journalistic bias out there.

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I think reading about Ruth and Antonin Scalia's friendship was the most wholesome political reading I've ever done. Hearing people divided in opinion, but not bitterly so, working together to figure out the best framework to construct American society from was inspirational. I hope the two halves of the political world can become friends in the way they were. Rest in peace Ruth. I hope if there's an after you and Ant…

Was so lovely after reading the article, that the point that stuck with me, aligned with your comment right at the top. Maybe there's some sort of new "non-denominational creed" we could all sign up for. ~" We may not agree but I will always listen to you. I will always consider your opinion with respect and will endeavour to understand your reasoning. My views are not set - my goal is to listen to arguments to come…

I think this might collapse at the edge cases: If I'm a black man and the opinion is that I'm an animal, and the person with the opinion uses this reasoning to abuse me, then I may be ethically correct to not listen or keep myself in their presence.

Or, say, I'm a disabled person and someone tells me they think social services should be cut so people like me can die off for the good of humanity. It may be actively emotionally harmful for marginalized people to be listening to toxic opinions that they are worth nothing.

(EDIT: To be clear I think listening to opinions I disagree with in good faith is a good thing that we need more of in society. However, I also believe marginalized voices are, by sake of being marginalized, are forced to engage in a significantly higher volume of significantly more emotionally taxing opinions, and therefore may need to protect themselves, and that isn't wrong.)

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Was so lovely after reading the article, that the point that stuck with me, aligned with your comment right at the top. Maybe there's some sort of new "non-denominational creed" we could all sign up for. ~" We may not agree but I will always listen to you. I will always consider your opinion with respect and will endeavour to understand your reasoning. My views are not set - my goal is to listen to arguments to come…

But with the internet much more of what you do is visible and more people know about it. What you said could be attacked with "white silence is violence"

Speech isn't violence. Lack of speech isn't violence. People lazily regurgitate these postmodernist bumper sticker phrases and consider themselves informed activists.

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He revoked the transparency surrounding drone strikes, so you don't know how often they happen. He pardoned war criminals found guilty by our own military courts. He is setting up companies to steal oil from Syria and has always stated that we would be fools not to take those military earned resources. The state kills unarmed people in the US everyday, I see drone strikes in war zones as as far tinier issue than all…

> He pardoned war criminals found guilty by our own military courts. I am unaware of that, do you have any reference?

Can you not Google?

Here: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/27/eddie-gallag...

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RBG was also the voice of reason when Justice Kavanaugh was under attack by an unhinged mob. She truly could see beyond politics, and will be missed by both sides of the aisle.

The voice? I think there were many voices of reason that had his back. It was very enlightening to see what extremes people will go to at times.

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The last 4 years have been very dark but I hope the following quote gives you a better perspective: "Take a moment. Breathe. And then we fight for our country the way she always did for us. Or we will lose everything." https://twitter.com/MaryLTrump/status/1307109748744114177?s=...

The other quote that pairs really well with this one: “We don’t inherent the world (our country) from our parents. We have it on loan from our children.”

It is for this reason I have chosen not to have children.

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Worked right to the end even with her health challenges. What a role model.

She should have retired before 2016 and let someone step up. Occupying the seat of power until you keel over at the age of 85 is a peculiar expression of ego and selfishness.

I am not American and I am not familiar with the legacy of justice Ginsburg. Looking at it from a non-American perspective, I would find it very odd for a supreme court judge, who is supposed to be non-partisan and neutral, to favour one party over another, even just in the matter of choosing a successor. Wasn't justice Ginsburg of the same mind?
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