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Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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This won’t happen. I’m a reasonable person and happy to change my mind with evidence, and don’t say this lightly, but the republicans do not give a crud about any of this. They are the most conniving and soulless individuals that exist. This is coming from a recent former republican. I miss George Will’s Republican party.

that's funny, because I feel that the DNC is the most soulless, vicious, corrupt and generally awful human beings there are.

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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post #281

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Mitch McConnell and Trump will have a replacement confirmed by the end of October.

Absolutely not. Why would Trump eliminate one of the biggest draws to electing him? If he pushes someone through before November, he absolutely loses the senate (assuming you believe the polls). No way those purple states with senators up for election are going to carry Republicans who went from "we don't vote for the USSC during final term years" to "RUSH THROUGH THE FEDERALIST SOCIETY NOMINEE!" in 4 years. The move…

I definitely would expect Trump to calculate whether it is more in his interests to do it before or after election day.

I don't think it's possible to remove the election math, though. Whatever he does, it could influence voter turnout for both sides.

There's also the possibility that something about the election will be disputed and go to the Supreme Court (as happened with vote counting with Bush v. Gore in 2000). So Trump might decide he wants his appointee to already be serving before election day if he thinks that would be more in his favor.

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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post #670

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But with the internet much more of what you do is visible and more people know about it. What you said could be attacked with "white silence is violence"

I had a much longer response typed - but deleted it when it stopped even making sense to me. "white silence is violence" googles Still no idea how that could be applied to my post - but I am most definitely white, and after a bit of introspection, can't think of anything I've constructively done to address racism outside of late-night internet posts. So whilst I'd like to think I was "non-racist" - I do now feel a bi…

This — suspension of judgement long enough to engage in genuine introspection, followed by a return to the conversation with humility — is something we so rarely see, and each need to engage in more.

Kudos to you for leading by example.

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Clinton carried the popular vote in both 1992 and 1996. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_United_States_presidentia... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_United_States_presidentia... If you're talking about Hilary, the majority of Americans did vote for her, not Trump. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidentia... Edit: As erichocean pointed out, I am incorrect. Although Hilary received the most vo…

43.0% is a plurality; a majority (57%) of people voted against Bill Clinton in 1992. But you knew that. Clinton also failed to get a majority of the votes in 1996, as did both Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump in 2016.

Which candidate received the most votes from American voters in both 1992 and 1996?

Based on the definition I understand, the candidate who gets the most votes nationwide is said to have won the popular vote.

You are correct that the majority of voters did not vote for Clinton in 2016. I misspoke. However, she did win the popular vote. More Americans voted for her than voted for Trump. However, against the wishes of the voting public, Trump was elected president.

The American people are being held hostage.

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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post #144

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There would seem to be precedent for this now. Justice Antonin Scalia died in February of 2016, a replacement was nominated in March of 2016, and because Scalia's seat had become vacant during an election year, the Senate would not even consider a nomination from the president [0]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrick_Garland_Supreme_Court_...

Precedent means nothing. There's no law. Mcconnell just abused his power and will do so again with no regard for his past position.

Did you view it as an abuse of power when Harry Reid invoked the 'nuclear option' on filibuster?

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post #615

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There is no reason to 'other' people like this. Parties are things that people adhere to, some for a season, some for a lifetime, but they reflect very little about their worth as human beings. I come from a large family and we represent the whole spectrum of political beliefs, in a single generation, and all my sibs are equally kind and selfless, regardless of their political affiliation.

I think they were referring to the elected Republicans, not lay people. I'd be curious to know which elected (R) Senator/Congressperson you would consider kind and selfless.

I'd be curious which (D) representative you think would fit that criteria either.

Politicians are egomaniacs almost by definition.

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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post #245

I think reading about Ruth and Antonin Scalia's friendship was the most wholesome political reading I've ever done. Hearing people divided in opinion, but not bitterly so, working together to figure out the best framework to construct American society from was inspirational. I hope the two halves of the political world can become friends in the way they were. Rest in peace Ruth. I hope if there's an after you and Ant…

Although the justices being friends is inevitable, it is not desirable. The justices would be more representative of the people - and probably dispense better justice - if there was an uneasy compromise between them based on basic principles of precedent and law. That isn't a very fun vision of life on the bench - and any system is imperfect - so I don't really advocate that. But the idea that these people are assert…

I think you are wrong. The mutual respect that grows out of friendship makes it easier to consider the other side of an argumen more seriously. And if there is one thing that is needed now it is more common ground being sought - not less.

The idea that one ought not fraternize with those who disagree with one’s opinion is unproductive and leads to unnecessary division and ultimately a weaker system. Ultimately it is a brutish and uncivilized idea.

I wish your post wasn’t downvoted. Bad ideas require discussion to be understood. And they can’t be discussed if they are removed from discourse.

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