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Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by ikiris »

malandrew wrote: post #428
usefulcat wrote: post #181

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The problem is that those activists and politicians you refer to are a reflection of what way too many voters genuinely want.

Is it though? Most people are more politically center and the extremes of the political spectrum keep trying to pull politicians towards the extremes. When that failed to work, they started pulling out the "you're either with us or against us" card forcing people to pick sides or be ostracized if they risked being nuanced.

We should come to some agreement and maybe give some people 3/5ths of their rights, as has been done prior. That should solve these "extreme" positions with some much needed compromise.

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by BooneJS »

Unsurprising. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/09/18/reaction-...

> Breaking: Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), who refused to consider President Obama’s choice months before the 2016 election, said in a statement Friday hours after Ginsburg’s death: “President Trump’s nominee will receive a vote on the floor of the United States Senate.”

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Post by notabee »

refurb wrote: post #381
TimTheTinker wrote: post #335

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Election results don't change what people believe and value. The current situation in the US has been a long time coming, and it will take a long time to resolve.

You’re nuts if think it hasn’t always been this way. Hell, a senator beat the shit out of another senator back in the 1850’s. In the senate.

Yes, right before a massive civil war broke out that killed hundreds of thousands of Americans. I don't think you're making the point that you think you're making.

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by gwright »

empthought wrote: post #324
jcheng wrote: post #300

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The Democrats have literally lost ONE presidential election in a row

And they lost it by winning 2.5 million more votes than the Republicans.

Too bad that wasn't actually the way you win a Presidential election. There is an actual rationale for the Electoral college. Go ahead and argue for different rules but pointing out that the results would have been different if the rules were different isn't that informative.

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Post by lliamander »

tyre wrote: post #86

For every one of the coming takes that Republicans will be hypocrites to appoint and confirm a justice (which they will) They do not give a fuck. That’s not how they see power and it is why they have a far disproportionate share of power/representation than their support across the electorate. This is about power. In politics, nothing else matters.

Do not make the mistake of thinking the politicians who represent you are particularly principled people.

The left has been talking about stacking the supreme court since Kavanaugh. Democratic senators played games with the filibuster. There are plenty of other examples of weaponizing politics that I could cite (from both sides).

I would like to see Senate Republicans show some fair play and wait for after the election, though there is some wisdom in wanting to avoid the possibility of a split decision should this election go to the supreme court.

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Post by [deleted] »

rayiner wrote: post #398
alex_young wrote: post #122

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There would seem to be precedent for this now. Justice Antonin Scalia died in February of 2016, a replacement was nominated in March of 2016, and because Scalia's seat had become vacant during an election year, the Senate would not even consider a nomination from the president [0]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrick_Garland_Supreme_Court_...

That is not the precedent: https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/08/history-is-on-the-sid... > History supports Republicans filling the seat. Doing so would not be in any way inconsistent with Senate Republicans’ holding open the seat vacated by Justice Antonin Scalia in 2016. The reason is simple, and was explained by Mitch McConnell at the time. Historically, throughout American history, when their party controls the…

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Post by edbob »

jagger27 wrote: post #250
TheAdamAndChe wrote: post #62

The potential ramifications of this are chilling. If the Republicans mishandle this, it could drastically increase the chances of widespread conflict around the time of the elections.

It seems to me that widespread conflict is exactly what Trump republicans want. Just this weeks' news: mass hysterectomies in ICE camps, Trump's tirade on rewriting school history books on slavery, overt mail service destruction, more anti-mask rhetoric, and the list goes on and on. They're putting the pedal to the metal.

> mass hysterectomies in ICE camps

All I found was two allegations against a single doctor. That's horrible if true, but it seems like a typical case of medical malpractice that has nothing whatsoever to do with the administration.

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Post by chkaloon »

pbourke wrote: post #462
ghufran_syed wrote: post #248

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Democrat senators Chuck Schumer and Harry Reid first introduced a filibuster for judicial nominees, and then ending the filibuster for judicial nominees when it was politically convenient for them. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/mitch-mcconn... Do you think that might have affected the ability of the current president to successfully appoint a supreme court justice now?

> Democrat senators Chuck Schumer and Harry Reid ... *Democratic Chuck Shumer, a Democrat, is a member of the Democratic Party. When used as an adjective the correct usage is “Democratic”

The useful thing about seeing 'Democrat' in a comment is that it is immediately obvious which way their bias leans.

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Post by tus88 »

geofft wrote: post #125
tus88 wrote: post #35

> That was never more evident than in 1996 when, as a relatively new Supreme Court justice, Ginsburg wrote the court's 7-to-1 opinion declaring that the Virginia Military Institute could no longer remain an all-male institution. True, said Ginsburg, most women — indeed most men — would not want to meet the rigorous demands of VMI. But the state, she said, could not exclude women who could meet those demands. What's t…

Seems unlikely - at the ACLU she wrote an amicus arguing that giving benefits to wives of male soldiers but not husbands of female soldiers was unjust and the husbands should be entitled to the same benefits ( https://www.oyez.org/cases/1972/71-1694 ), and last year's federal case National Coalition for Men v. Selective Service System ruled, based on the precedent she set in that case, that the male-only draft was un…

About the only thing that has in common is it's military related.

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Post by jkestner »

renewiltord wrote: post #205
op03 wrote: post #188

Remove the Publicly visible Like Count and those kind of conversations and connections are easy. The Like count makes people defensive or aggressive especially when they are called out in public leading to never ending reaction and counter reaction cycles. Without that dumb random signal interfering in conversations all kinds of strange connections are possible. I see it at work meetings between highly competitive pe…

What. People were acrimonious in the medieval ages. They didn't have like counts. This is such total bullshit.

Yeah, but now acrimony’s at webscale.
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