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Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by evan_ »

User23 wrote: post #291
tyre wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Precisely. There is a desire, specifically and especially on the left, to get so caught up in their principles that people believe it is the primary source of change. For example: What should be the first acts and priorities be of a democratic administration? Healthcare? Nope. Climate change? Nope. A federal holiday for election days? Yes. Passing legislation mandating mail-in ballots? Yes. That’s how you think about…

Democrats’ policy of importing tens of millions of future reliable Democrat voters is some solid strategic thinking.

If republicans don’t like that non-white people more frequently vote for democrats they could try courting their votes with their policies and actions rather than trying to kill/deport as many as possible

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by colinmhayes »

ghufran_syed wrote: post #263
ncallaway wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then it's time to fight back. Make it absolutely clear to McConnell and Democratic leaders in the Senate that if McConnell fills this seat in an election year, then the Democrats must increase the size of the SCOTUS. McConnell needs to fear the reprisal more than he fears the delay. Because you're right, this is about power. Nothing else matters to them. So make them fear this.

So why wouldn’t the Republicans do the same thing next time they win an election? Or would the Democrats somehow guarantee that never happens again?

SCOTUS is dead

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by akeck »

op03 wrote: post #188

Remove the Publicly visible Like Count and those kind of conversations and connections are easy. The Like count makes people defensive or aggressive especially when they are called out in public leading to never ending reaction and counter reaction cycles. Without that dumb random signal interfering in conversations all kinds of strange connections are possible. I see it at work meetings between highly competitive pe…

I don't know if Likes are the root of the issue, but they certainly don't help. Newsgroups had no such signaling and they could get really toxic.

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by treeman79 »

deathgrips wrote: post #142

Unfortunately modern activists and politicians want to make it seem like no reasonable person could disagree with them. This makes it impossible to engage in a dialogue and bridge a gap.

Some things have no gap.

Your either want the right to your own body, or a crusade to stop the murder of millions of babies.

This drives most other politics.

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by giantrobot »

protomyth wrote: post #101
nscalf wrote: post #30

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Since you clearly don’t get the context, the Republicans made this a giant issue when Obama had an open Supreme Court seat towards the end of his term. Let’s call a spade a spade: the republicans have no regard for the constitution or laws of the land if they benefit from ignoring it. They will now ignore the precedent they set and place a new Supreme Court justice.

Ultimately, a President with a friendly Senate will always fill the seat. An unfriendly Senate is going to delay the heck out of it. Any rhetoric around that is pretty much just noise. They will send someone through as they've published a couple of lists and have been filling the lower courts pretty quickly. It is not like people weren't aware Justice Ginsburg was very sick. Frankly, given the President, I would bet…

> An unfriendly Senate is going to delay the heck out of it.

You hit on the problem without seeming to realize it. The Senate didn't delay the heck out of anything. McDonnell flat out refused to do anything about Garland's nomination. He declared the nomination "null and void" based on no precedence, case law, and certainly not any interpretation of the Constitution. The Senate majority leader should not be able to shut down the Senate and prevent it from performing its Constitutionally mandated tasks. If the Senate didn't want to confirm Garland they should have held all the appropriate hearings and held an approval vote. If it's the Senate's will that Garland not be approved that's fine. It was singularly McConnell's will that Garland not be approved so he just never allowed hearings. No matter your political leanings that should be seen as abhorrent if you profess to want law and order.

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by selimthegrim »

kelnos wrote: post #195

Here's my prediction: Trump will nominate a successor in the next couple weeks. McConnell will start the process, but delay the vote until after the November election. This way: If Trump wins, McConnell can say that he was entirely reasonable and consistent, and he waited until after the election to ensure that the people really wanted Trump's SCOTUS nomination to be confirmed. If Trump loses, McConnell still has the…

Why shouldn’t the Democrats goad Trump into waiting after the election to nominate by a) implying he’s afraid he’ll lose and b) whispering about sweetheart plea deals via Schumer or someone

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by nerdponx »

mhh__ wrote: post #179
tyre wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Precisely. There is a desire, specifically and especially on the left, to get so caught up in their principles that people believe it is the primary source of change. For example: What should be the first acts and priorities be of a democratic administration? Healthcare? Nope. Climate change? Nope. A federal holiday for election days? Yes. Passing legislation mandating mail-in ballots? Yes. That’s how you think about…

Being embarrassed about wanting to be in power is a perpetual problem for leftism (It's understandable - it involves saying yes to the institutions you probably want to reform). Consider Corbyn in the UK - Awful polling from day 1, doesn't help much with Brexit, loses 2 elections (One meh, one disaster) but the lessons learned is that they won the "argument" and it's all good?

To be fair, most American "left" politicians are hardly left, with the exception of Sanders and the handful of DSA-affiliated Congressmen. Although popular support for more-left policies seems to be forcing them (reluctantly) farther leftward.

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by stevehawk »

tyre wrote: post #209
ncallaway wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then it's time to fight back. Make it absolutely clear to McConnell and Democratic leaders in the Senate that if McConnell fills this seat in an election year, then the Democrats must increase the size of the SCOTUS. McConnell needs to fear the reprisal more than he fears the delay. Because you're right, this is about power. Nothing else matters to them. So make them fear this.

I can’t see Dems doing that. They don’t have the popular support for something like that, let alone the courage. What they should do is physically barricade the Capitol. I’m not really joking. It will come to that. My first guess of the most action they will take: Staging a walk-out of the vote.

A walkout? That wouldn't do anything. There's 53 sitting Republicans. That's enough to confirm a nomination.

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Post by refurb »

loceng wrote: post #252
seibelj wrote: post #178

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I’m sad to say you may find the grass is always greener on the other side - government corruption exists everywhere that government exists.

Canada's looking fairly decent at the moment, however similar threats and pressure from global bad actors to deal with including in political arena.

As a Canadian, it’s not that different.

We just had our Finance Minister quit because he was taking money from a non-profit that gets most of it’s money from the Federal gov’t. Oh and his daughter got a cushy job there too. Completely based on merit no doubt.

Trudeau says “oh we’re sorry about that”. And that’s it. No harm no foul.

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by leftyted »

adzm wrote: post #26

> According to her granddaughter Clara Spera, Ginsburg said, “My most fervent wish is that I will not be replaced until a new president is installed.” https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/13071014175225610...

Note that "until a new president is installed" means until 2024 if Trump is reelected.
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