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Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by scarface74 »

tus88 wrote: post #35

> That was never more evident than in 1996 when, as a relatively new Supreme Court justice, Ginsburg wrote the court's 7-to-1 opinion declaring that the Virginia Military Institute could no longer remain an all-male institution. True, said Ginsburg, most women — indeed most men — would not want to meet the rigorous demands of VMI. But the state, she said, could not exclude women who could meet those demands. What's t…

There is no evidence that she would be opposed to women entering the draft. The case hasn’t been tried before the Supreme Court, but a Federal Court has already said that excluding women from the draft is discriminatory.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/02/ruth-bader-ginsb...

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by tick_tock_tick »

nscalf wrote: post #30
xwdv wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He absolutely should it is his job.

Since you clearly don’t get the context, the Republicans made this a giant issue when Obama had an open Supreme Court seat towards the end of his term. Let’s call a spade a spade: the republicans have no regard for the constitution or laws of the land if they benefit from ignoring it. They will now ignore the precedent they set and place a new Supreme Court justice.

It's more like the congress exercised there constitution power to do fuck all if they wanted. Just cause it's a shitty thing doesn't make it un-constitution. What happened to Obama was his party didn't have the votes to approve someone so it didn't happen that's it.

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by [deleted] »

atonse wrote: post #45
adzm wrote: post #26

> According to her granddaughter Clara Spera, Ginsburg said, “My most fervent wish is that I will not be replaced until a new president is installed.” https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/13071014175225610...

As much as I respected and admired RBG, even she would’ve known it’s at best a wish and nothing else. If things weren’t so polarized, they absolutely should spare no time in replacing the seat, as is their duty. But we know it’ll be yet another cynical and dishonest process as it was last time.

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Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by tyre »

stock_toaster wrote: post #72
bsimpson wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

McConnell is pretty transparent about his hypocritical political bullshit: > "Oh, we’d fill it,” McConnell told supporters in Kentucky on Tuesday when asked what he would do if a Supreme Court justice died in 2020 while President Trump was still in office > https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/05/29/oh-wed-fi... edit: Am I really getting downvoted for pointing out how the current administration already said i…

McConnell has done more harm to the USA than any other politician I can think of in recent memory.

This.

Seeing trump as a cause and not a symptom or as the leading disaster for American democracy is a very common distraction.

McConnell is the heart of all of it. He is nothing but an appetite for power. He’ll do anything. No morals whatsoever (and I say that neutrally, as a fact and not a moral judgement.)

And he wins.

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by apocalyptic0n3 »

koolba wrote: post #54
paxys wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He ideally should be able to, as long as the correct procedures are followed. Republicans, however, set the precedent by not allowing Obama to appoint one in his last year in office. My money, however, is on them ramming someone through anyways.

The distinction being that the opposition controlled the senate under Obama and he was too weak a president to take up the case that he had a right to have his nominees even considered. They didn’t just stop him from picking a justice, he abdicated his power by not pushing back.

What do you mean "too weak"? It's literally impossible for the President to push through a judge who the Senate refuses to even vote on. There's nothing Obama, or any president, could have done. It's not within their power.

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by tyingq »

atonse wrote: post #45
adzm wrote: post #26

> According to her granddaughter Clara Spera, Ginsburg said, “My most fervent wish is that I will not be replaced until a new president is installed.” https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/13071014175225610...

As much as I respected and admired RBG, even she would’ve known it’s at best a wish and nothing else. If things weren’t so polarized, they absolutely should spare no time in replacing the seat, as is their duty. But we know it’ll be yet another cynical and dishonest process as it was last time.

I'm somewhat curious how much deference and respect the administration will grant her. Basically how many days before they start pitching their nominee.

Edit: Fwiw, the RBG movie about her is on Hulu now.

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by spiritplumber »

This turn of events means a likely ossification of American policy for a generation. Much like in Iran, you risk ending up with a "council of sages" who is out of step and out of touch with the will of the people.

I say "you" because I can go elsewhere. My extended family wishes for me to return to Italy for my own safety.

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by shajznnckfke »

juniper_strong wrote: post #87
nscalf wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since you clearly don’t get the context, the Republicans made this a giant issue when Obama had an open Supreme Court seat towards the end of his term. Let’s call a spade a spade: the republicans have no regard for the constitution or laws of the land if they benefit from ignoring it. They will now ignore the precedent they set and place a new Supreme Court justice.

Do you think Obama asked the Republicans in the Senate for their advice on who to nominate when he nominated Merrick Garland?

Merrick was a pretty moderate choice who had been praised by many Republicans. Since they never voted on him, we don’t really know if they would have changed their minds and voted against him.

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died

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Post by tick_tock_tick »

shajznnckfke wrote: post #60
nscalf wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since you clearly don’t get the context, the Republicans made this a giant issue when Obama had an open Supreme Court seat towards the end of his term. Let’s call a spade a spade: the republicans have no regard for the constitution or laws of the land if they benefit from ignoring it. They will now ignore the precedent they set and place a new Supreme Court justice.

I think the law of the land is probably “whoever controls the Senate decides whether the Senate confirms a nominee”, but I guess we’ll find out soon.

I mean legally it's always been this the Supreme Court has been very clear on every cases regarding confirmation that Congress is free to act or not act at it's leisure.
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