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The Presence of One’s Own Smartphone Reduces Available Cognitive Capacity (2017)

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Re: The Presence of One’s Own Smartphone Reduces Available Cognitive Capacity (2017)

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Post by poidos »

frereubu wrote: post #201
perlgod wrote: post #10

Getting rid of my smartphone was without a doubt the most positive thing I ever did for myself. I'm sure some people have the self-control to use it sparingly. But for me, not having to constantly fight the urge to check my always-connected magic pocket internet portal has freed up a huge amount of my mental willpower, which I can now redirect to other more important things. Now that everything is closed, I don't eve…

I have two things which stop me, and it's not "muh gps"! I'd be interested in how people dealt with a situation like mine: 1. I have a Mac, and carefully organised contacts. How do I sync them to a Nokia that has 4G tethering (so I can work on my train-based commute) without going through Google? 2. How do you deal with music? I have AirPods and Spotify, which I absolutely love to have with me while walking around. (…

Maybe something like an iPad Mini? Small enough to be portable but big enough that holding it for long periods of time as one would a phone is impractical.

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Post by TheSpiceIsLife »

slothtrop wrote: post #146

New hot take: I'm addicted to my laptop. The phone barely registers in terms of interest because I work on my laptop anyway, which is less cumbersome to navigate. Notwithstanding the need to separate work from leisure life, much of leisure is just attached to this device. Even the less consumptive activities, like writing or playing music, benefit from it. And anything to do with innovation or research is absolutely…

I plan to purchase or build a time-delay safe, big enough for all the laptops and tablets and phones to fit in.

I think this would be great: 3hrs away from the devices, bam! easy.

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Post by ttamslam »

AndrewUnmuted wrote: post #215
heroHACK17 wrote: post #124

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Thank you for this - I am considering making the switch also. The biggest switch for me would be losing music streaming. What do you use for music on-the-go (at the gym, commuting, walking around, etc.)?

Believe it or not, there are still MP3 players (or, more commonly known these days as Digital Audio Players) out there that kick ass. This Sony device [0] even offers Tidal integration. Not sure if Spotify is among the list of supported services. [0] https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1538890-REG/sony_nwzx...

The price on this absolutely blows me away. It would be far more cost effective to buy a cheap android, download spotify/tidal/etc. via wifi, and sync all playlists offline.

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Post by sjy »

jethro_tell wrote: post #216
threentaway wrote: post #212

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1. NextCloud supports Calendar and Contacts sync if you are comfortable going down that route. 2. They're just bluetooth ear buds, they work with every phone that supports bluetooth.

How does next cloud sync to a dumb phone? The question is where do you store the music since it's a dumb phone

You can load and play audio files on a feature phone. Many people did this before iPhones and streaming services existed.

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Post by nobody9999 »

Thorentis wrote: post #224
nobody9999 wrote: post #209

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>You're confusing the idea of removing the other person's free will and the obligations that being in a sexual monogamous relationship carry. I don't believe that I am. I agree with just about everything you wrote. Where we diverge is that I do not agree that anyone, regardless of relationship status is obliged or required to engage in sexual activity to which they do not consent. >In a monogamous sexual relationship…

You seem caught up in this notion of abuse and consent, without any regard for the other side of the story. If I was in a monogamous relationship where I had agreed to not have sex with anybody else, and the other person for the duration of that relationship refused to have sex with me - is that not abusive? There are two sides of the coin here. How do you draw the line between consent and obligation in everyday life…

>If I was in a monogamous relationship where I had agreed to not have sex with anybody else, and the other person for the duration of that relationship refused to have sex with me - is that not abusive? There are two sides of the coin here.

Absolutely. But the response to such a situation shouldn't be to push your partner (who, presumably, you care about) to do something he or she doesn't want to do.

If someone is in that situation, there are clearly issues with the relationship that are bigger than just whether or not you get to stick it anytime you feel like it.

As such, if you value that relationship, it would probably be of value to communicate about what may be behind the issue.

And if your partner is unable or unwilling to at least attempt to do so, that's absolutely abusive and detrimental to the relationship.

At that point, you need to ask yourself if it's possible to rescue the relationship.

You seem to be under the misapprehension that I view relationships only through the lens of consent. I do not.

In order to make a relationship work, everyone must be willing to communicate, be patient and compromise. And that extends to sex too.

And there's a difference between "Oh honey! The kids just wore me out today. Let's get some sleep and we can get my sister to take the kids for the weekend and we'll smear every piece of furniture with our bodily fluids!" and "Don't touch me, asshole!"

In the former scenario, you might reasonably take some steps to encourage your partner to push past their fatigue and enjoy each other.

However, even in that instance, if your partner for whatever reason, is still unwilling, you do not have the right to demand sex.

In the latter scenario, one would expect that rather than pressing the issue, you'd try to understand why your partner is not only unwilling to to have sex, but why they're so hostile.

In either case, you do not have the right to insist that your partner do stuff they don't want to do.

Why is that so hard to understand?

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Post by wussboy »

rnin100 wrote: post #191
wussboy wrote: post #68

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Thanks for your great response. I’ve often considered doing something like this. I wonder if there is a way to accomplish many of these things while still carrying your phone? For example, what if your phone took 5 minutes to unlock? And didn’t give notifications until you unlocked it? Just a thought.

This can be done with Tasker. It's the most advanced phone app for automation. I believe it would be simple to make a task showing a screen that cannot be dismissed whenever the phone is unlocked.

This is the sort of answer I was looking for. Unfortunately I’m on iPhone. :(

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Post by wussboy »

Insanity wrote: post #205
mdiesel wrote: post #77

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My OnePlus (not sure how widespread the feature is on android) has a Zen Mode, once started you can't use the phone for most things until the timer elapses. A bit different, but good if you want a break.

If you don't have a oneplus, I suggest the "forest" app. Helps me tremendously. http://forestapp.cc/ (No affiliation, just a happy user)

I’m going to try this. Thanks!

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Post by sjy »

jacobmoe wrote: post #147
duggable wrote: post #129

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Gah, I need to do this so bad. Lately I've admitted to myself that I'm truly addicted to my phone. I go through phases of blocking safari, deleting all my non-essential apps, etc, but they always find a way to slowly creep back into my life ("5 minutes of reddit won't hurt while my kids are playing on their own...."). I'm realizing that I am just one of those people who can't handle even having it as an option. Thank…

Something I realized recently is that I'm not addicted to social media or any apps in particular, but I am addicted to my phone. I managed to give up pretty much all social media, save for an occasional peek at reddit and this site, but still take out my phone about as often as I did before. Mostly I just check the news for the umpteenth time in a day. My current plan is to keep using my phone, but switch to using it…

I have an entrenched Anki habit – I picked it up while studying for an exam, and now it says I’ve been using it for an average of 17 minutes a day for 2 years. It’s a great tool and I recommend it. But I don’t think it helps to fix the phone addiction problem. Getting to an average of 17 minutes was hard work that required a lot of willpower. I’m sure most people with a phone addiction problem are spending much more than 17 minutes a day on unproductive scrolling.

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Post by reaperducer »

ckosidows wrote: post #204
jcynix wrote: post #185

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Gym? Just the gym, no music. Walking? The same, enjoying my surrounding. I quit music streaming (tried Amazon, Google) after some trials and concentrate on a selection of music, which I can listen to again and again. I do use a tablet with a 256GB SD card, so have space to store a variety of things. While my musical taste is eclectic (i.e. from classic over techno to glitch) I mostly prefer to either listen to music…

I've started leaving my phone out of my gym time as well. It feels like the right thing to do, but it definitely feels odd or like I'm different somehow. At the gym I go to everyone listens to music while lifting and it's almost surreal to look around while resting between sets to see everyone is dialed into their own little world. I wonder what gyms looked like in earlier generations (I'm only 27). Did people talk m…

Did people talk more?

Yes. Especially before the televisions arrived.

Gyms were well-known social hubs. You'd meet people, sometimes even work out business deals, at the gym.

The isolation that technology has brought us has reduced the number of serendipitous human connections we used to make as a species. It has also turned us into an us-verus-them society because we no longer have large circles of friends with varying opinions.

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